Re: Your Senate protect phone companies
- From: "the Bede" <rspwsownthebede@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 16:27:02 -0600
TOPPOSTIING to inform peepz that Obama voted against the immunity and McCain
voted for it, just as they'd promised. Hillary, not giving a ***, skipped
the vote to fly to Texas to campaign for its primary, which is next month.
"Patient Zero 2.0......Still #1 in the hearts of RSPW"
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Senate OKs Immunity for Telecomsnot
Like the phone weren't already listening in on our hone calls!!
By PAMELA HESS - 4 hours ago
WASHINGTON (AP) - The Senate voted Tuesday to shield from lawsuits
telecommunications companies that helped the government eavesdrop on their
customers without court permission after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.
After nearly two months of stops and starts, the Senate rejected by a vote
of 31 to 67 a move to strip away a grant of retroactive legal immunity for
the companies.
President Bush has promised to veto any new surveillance bill that does
protect the companies that helped the government in its warrantlessgiven
wiretapping program, arguing that it is essential if the private sector is
to give the government the help it needs.
About 40 lawsuits have been filed against telecom companies by people
alleging violations of wiretapping and privacy laws.
The Senate also rejected two amendments that sought to water down the
immunity provision.
One, co-sponsored by Republican Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania and Democrat
Sheldon Whitehouse of Rhode Island, would have substituted the government
for the telecoms in lawsuits, allowing the court cases to go forward but
shifting the cost and burden of defending the program.
The other, pushed by California Democrat Dianne Feinstein, would have
a secret court that oversees government surveillance inside the Unitedin
States the power to dismiss lawsuits if it found that the companies acted
good faith and on the request of the president or attorney general.which
Full telecom immunity must still be approved by the House; its version of
the surveillance bill does not provide immunity.
At issue is the government's post-9/11 Terrorist Surveillance Program,
circumvented a secret court created 30 years ago to oversee suchactivities.
The court was part of the 1978 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, alaw
written in response to government abuse of its surveillance authoritycommunications.
against Americans.
The surveillance law has been updated repeatedly since then, most recently
last summer. Congress hastily adopted a FISA modification in August in the
face of dire warnings from the White House that changes in
telecommunications technology and FISA court rulings were dangerously
constraining the government's ability to intercept terrorist
court
Shortly after its passage, privacy and civil liberties groups said the new
law gave the government unprecedented authority to spy on Americans,
particularly those who communicate with foreigners.
That law expires Feb. 15, the deadline against which the Senate is now
racing to pass a new bill.
In a separate voice vote Tuesday, the Senate expanded the power of the
to oversee government eavesdropping on Americans. The amendment would givewhether
the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court the authority to monitor
the government is complying with procedures designed to protect theprivacy
of innocent Americans whose telephone or computer communications arewho
captured during surveillance of a foreign target.
The bill would also require FISA court orders to eavesdrop on Americans
are overseas. Under current law, the government can wiretap or search thethe
possessions of anyone outside the United States_even a soldier serving
overseas_ without court permission if it believes the person may be a
foreign agent.
"You don't lose your rights when you leave American soil," Sen. Ron Wyden,
D-Ore., said in an interview. Wyden wrote the provision into the bill when
it was still being considered by the Senate Intelligence Committee. "In
digital age, an American's rights shouldn't depend on their physicalbill,
geography."
The House approved its own update last fall. If the Senate passes its
differences between the two versions remain to be worked out, approved by
both houses, and delivered to the president for his signature.
--
It's so quiet in here you could hear a mouse pissing on a
cottonball" ---JAPW
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