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Don't compare Hussein to Hitler...I know FoxNews Sunday let you get away
with you shooting off your piehole, but to some people what you said was
mostly CRAP!!!

Olbermann: Secretary Rice's comparison of Saddam to Hitler is not accurate

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Updated: 8:14 a.m. PT Feb 27, 2007
On "Fox News Sunday" Feb. 25, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice paralleled
World War II with the state of Iraq when discussing what would happen if
Congress were to revise the Iraq authorization:

We already know about her suggestion that the president could just ignore
whatever congressional Democrats do about Iraq.

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Just ignore Congress.

We know how that game always turns out. Ask President Nixon. Ask President
Andrew Johnson.

Or ask Vice President *** Cheney, who utterly contradicted Secretary Rice
on Monday when he warned President Pervez Musharraf of Pakistan about what
those mean congressional Democrats could do to his foreign aid.

All of this, par for the course.

But about what the secretary said regarding the prospect of Congress'
revising or repealing the 2002 authorization of the war in Iraq:

Here we go again! From springs spent trying to link Saddam Hussein to 9/11,
to summers of cynically manipulated intelligence, through autumns of false
patriotism, to winters of war, we have had more than four years of every
cheap trick and every degree of calculated cynicism from this
administration, filled with Three-Card Monte players.

But the longer Dr. Rice and these other pickpockets of a nation's goodness
have walked among us, waving flags and slandering opponents and making true
enemies - foreign and domestic - all hat and no cattle all the while, the
overriding truth of their occupancy of our highest offices of state has only
gradually become clear.

As they asked in that Avis commercial: "Ever get the feeling some people
just stopped trying?"

Then-Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld thought he could equate those who
doubted him with Nazi appeasers, without reminding anybody that the actual,
historical Nazi appeasers in this country in the 1930s were the Republicans.

Vice President Cheney thought he could talk as if he and he alone knew the
"truth" about Iraq and 9/11, without anyone ever noticing that even the rest
of the administration officially disagreed with him.

The president really acted as if you could scare all of the people all of
the time and not lose your soul - and your majority - as a result.

But Secretary of State Rice may have now taken the cake. On the Sunday
morning interview show "Of Broken Record" on Fox, Dr. Rice spoke a
paragraph, which if it had been included in a remedial history paper at the
weakest high school in the nation would've gotten the writer an "F" - maybe
an expulsion.

If Congress were now to revise the Iraq authorization, she said, out loud,
with an adult present: ". it would be like saying that after Adolf Hitler
was overthrown, we needed to change, then, the resolution that allowed the
United States to do that, so that we could deal with creating a stable
environment in Europe after he was overthrown."

The secretary's résumé reads that she has a master's degree and a Ph.D in
political science.
The interviewer should have demanded to see them, on the spot. Dr. Rice
spoke 42 words. She may have made more mistakes in them than did the
president in his State of the Union Address in 2003.

There is, obviously, no mistaking Saddam Hussein for a human being. But nor
is there any mistaking him for Adolf Hitler.

Invoking the German dictator who subjugated Europe; who tried to exterminate
the Jews; who sought to overtake the world is not just in the poorest of
taste, but in its hyperbole, it insults not merely the victims of the Third
Reich, but those in this country who fought it and defeated it.
Saddam Hussein was not Adolf Hitler. And George W. Bush is not Franklin D.
Roosevelt - nor Dwight D. Eisenhower. He isn't even George H.W. Bush, who
fought in that war.

However, even through the clouds of deliberately spread fear, and even under
the weight of a thousand exaggerations of the five years past, one can just
barely make out how a battle against international terrorism in 2007 could
be compared - by some - to the Second World War.

The analogy is weak, and it instantly begs the question of why those of "The
Greatest Generation" focused on Hitler and Hirohito, but our leaders seem to
have ignored their vague parallels of today to instead concentrate on the
Mussolinis of modern terrorism.

But in some, small, "You didn't fail, Junior, but you may need to go to
summer school" kind of way, you can just make out that comparison.

But, Secretary Rice, overthrowing Saddam Hussein was akin to overthrowing
Adolf Hitler? Are you kidding? Did you want to provoke the world's laughter?

And, please, Madame Secretary, if you are going to make that most
implausible, subjective, dubious, ridiculous comparison; if you want to be
as far off the mark about the Second World War as, say, the pathetic
Holocaust-denier from Iran, Ahmadinejad - at least get the easily verifiable
facts right: the facts whose home through history lies in your own
department.

"The resolution that allowed the United States to" overthrow Hitler?

On the 11th of December, 1941, at 8 o'clock in the morning, two of Hitler's
diplomats walked up to the State Department - your office, Secretary Rice --
and 90 minutes later they were handing a declaration of war to the chief of
the department's European Division. The Japanese had bombed Pearl Harbor
four days earlier, and the Germans simply piled on.

Your predecessors, Dr. Rice, didn't spend a year making up phony evidence
and mistaking German balloon-inflating trucks for mobile germ warfare labs.
They didn't pretend the world was ending because a tin-pot tyrant couldn't
hand over the chemical weapons it turned out he'd destroyed a decade
earlier. The Germans walked up to the front door of our State Department and
said, "We're at war." It was in all the papers. And when that war ended,
more than three horrible years later, our troops and the Russians were in
Berlin. And we stayed, as an occupying force, well into the 1950s. As an
occupying force, Madam Secretary!

If you want to compare what we did to Hitler and in Germany to what we did
to Saddam and in Iraq, I'm afraid you're going to have to buy the whole
analogy. We were an occupying force in Germany, Dr. Rice, and by your logic,
we're now an occupying force in Iraq. And if that's the way you see it, you
damn well better come out and tell the American people so. Save your breath
telling it to the Iraqis - most of them already buy that part of the
comparison.

"It would be like saying that after Adolf Hitler was overthrown, we needed
to change then, the resolution that allowed the United States to do that, so
that we could deal with creating a stable environment in Europe after he was
overthrown."

We already have a subjectively false comparison between Hitler and Saddam.
We already have a historically false comparison between Germany and Iraq. We
already have blissful ignorance by our secretary of state about how this
country got into the war against Hitler. But then there's this part about
changing "the resolution" about Iraq; that it would be as ridiculous in the
secretary's eyes as saying that after Hitler was defeated, we needed to go
back to Congress to "deal with creating a stable environment in Europe after
he was overthrown."

Oh, good grief, Secretary Rice, that's exactly what we did do! We went back
to Congress to deal with creating a stable environment in Europe after
Hitler was overthrown! It was called the Marshall Plan.
Marshall!

Gen. George Catlett Marshall!

Secretary of state!

The job you have now!

C'mon!

Twelve billion, 400 thousand dollars to stabilize all of Europe
economically - to keep the next enemies of freedom, the Russians, out and
democracy in! And how do you suppose that happened? The president of the
United States went back to Congress and asked it for a new authorization and
for the money. And do you have any idea, Madame Secretary, who opposed him
when he did that? The Republicans!

"We've spent enough money in Europe," said Sen. Robert Taft of Ohio.

"We've spent enough of our resources," said former President Hoover.

It's time to pull out of there! As they stand up, we'll stand down!

This administration has long thought otherwise, but you can't cherry-pick
life - whether life in 2007, or life in the history page marked 1945. You
can't keep the facts that fit your prejudices and throw out the ones that
destroy your theories. And if you're going to try to do that; if you still
want to fool some people into thinking that Saddam was Hitler, and once we
gave FDR that blank check in Germany he was no longer subject to the laws of
Congress or gravity or physics, at least stop humiliating us.

Get your facts straight. Use the Google!

You've been on Fox News Sunday, Secretary Rice. The Fox network has got
another show premiering Tuesday night. You could go on that one, too. It
might be a better fit. It's called "Are You Smarter Than A Fifth Grader?"

Nobody watches Olberman. He is simply an ESPN reject who wishes
somebody would
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I have also never seen anyone on any newscast, on any level of media
make it so obvious that he's reading his rants off cue cards. He may
really hate bush, but he's certianly got some writers, that really,
really hate W.

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