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> Don't compare Hussein to Hitler...I know FoxNews Sunday let you get away
> with you shooting off your piehole, but to some people what you said was
> mostly CRAP!!!

> Olbermann: Secretary Rice's comparison of Saddam to Hitler is not > accurate

> SPECIAL COMMENT
> Countdown
> Updated: 8:14 a.m. PT Feb 27, 2007
> On "Fox News Sunday" Feb. 25, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice > paralleled
> World War II with the state of Iraq when discussing what would happen if
> Congress were to revise the Iraq authorization:

> We already know about her suggestion that the president could just > ignore
> whatever congressional Democrats do about Iraq.

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> Just ignore Congress.

> We know how that game always turns out. Ask President Nixon. Ask > President
> Andrew Johnson.

> Or ask Vice President *** Cheney, who utterly contradicted Secretary > Rice
> on Monday when he warned President Pervez Musharraf of Pakistan about > what
> those mean congressional Democrats could do to his foreign aid.

> All of this, par for the course.

> But about what the secretary said regarding the prospect of Congress'
> revising or repealing the 2002 authorization of the war in Iraq:

> Here we go again! From springs spent trying to link Saddam Hussein to > 9/11,
> to summers of cynically manipulated intelligence, through autumns of > false
> patriotism, to winters of war, we have had more than four years of every
> cheap trick and every degree of calculated cynicism from this
> administration, filled with Three-Card Monte players.

> But the longer Dr. Rice and these other pickpockets of a nation's > goodness
> have walked among us, waving flags and slandering opponents and making > true
> enemies - foreign and domestic - all hat and no cattle all the while, > the
> overriding truth of their occupancy of our highest offices of state has > only
> gradually become clear.

> As they asked in that Avis commercial: "Ever get the feeling some people
> just stopped trying?"

> Then-Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld thought he could equate those who
> doubted him with Nazi appeasers, without reminding anybody that the > actual,
> historical Nazi appeasers in this country in the 1930s were the > Republicans.

> Vice President Cheney thought he could talk as if he and he alone knew > the
> "truth" about Iraq and 9/11, without anyone ever noticing that even the > rest
> of the administration officially disagreed with him.

> The president really acted as if you could scare all of the people all > of
> the time and not lose your soul - and your majority - as a result.

> But Secretary of State Rice may have now taken the cake. On the Sunday
> morning interview show "Of Broken Record" on Fox, Dr. Rice spoke a
> paragraph, which if it had been included in a remedial history paper at > the
> weakest high school in the nation would've gotten the writer an "F" - > maybe
> an expulsion.

> If Congress were now to revise the Iraq authorization, she said, out > loud,
> with an adult present: ". it would be like saying that after Adolf > Hitler
> was overthrown, we needed to change, then, the resolution that allowed > the
> United States to do that, so that we could deal with creating a stable
> environment in Europe after he was overthrown."

> The secretary's résumé reads that she has a master's degree and a Ph.D > in
> political science.
> The interviewer should have demanded to see them, on the spot. Dr. Rice
> spoke 42 words. She may have made more mistakes in them than did the
> president in his State of the Union Address in 2003.

> There is, obviously, no mistaking Saddam Hussein for a human being. But > nor
> is there any mistaking him for Adolf Hitler.

> Invoking the German dictator who subjugated Europe; who tried to > exterminate
> the Jews; who sought to overtake the world is not just in the poorest of
> taste, but in its hyperbole, it insults not merely the victims of the > Third
> Reich, but those in this country who fought it and defeated it.
> Saddam Hussein was not Adolf Hitler. And George W. Bush is not Franklin > D.
> Roosevelt - nor Dwight D. Eisenhower. He isn't even George H.W. Bush, > who
> fought in that war.

> However, even through the clouds of deliberately spread fear, and even > under
> the weight of a thousand exaggerations of the five years past, one can > just
> barely make out how a battle against international terrorism in 2007 > could
> be compared - by some - to the Second World War.

> The analogy is weak, and it instantly begs the question of why those of > "The
> Greatest Generation" focused on Hitler and Hirohito, but our leaders > seem to
> have ignored their vague parallels of today to instead concentrate on > the
> Mussolinis of modern terrorism.

> But in some, small, "You didn't fail, Junior, but you may need to go to
> summer school" kind of way, you can just make out that comparison.

> But, Secretary Rice, overthrowing Saddam Hussein was akin to > overthrowing
> Adolf Hitler? Are you kidding? Did you want to provoke the world's > laughter?

> And, please, Madame Secretary, if you are going to make that most
> implausible, subjective, dubious, ridiculous comparison; if you want to > be
> as far off the mark about the Second World War as, say, the pathetic
> Holocaust-denier from Iran, Ahmadinejad - at least get the easily > verifiable
> facts right: the facts whose home through history lies in your own
> department.

> "The resolution that allowed the United States to" overthrow Hitler?

> On the 11th of December, 1941, at 8 o'clock in the morning, two of > Hitler's
> diplomats walked up to the State Department - your office, Secretary > Rice --
> and 90 minutes later they were handing a declaration of war to the chief > of
> the department's European Division. The Japanese had bombed Pearl Harbor
> four days earlier, and the Germans simply piled on.

> Your predecessors, Dr. Rice, didn't spend a year making up phony > evidence
> and mistaking German balloon-inflating trucks for mobile germ warfare > labs.
> They didn't pretend the world was ending because a tin-pot tyrant > couldn't
> hand over the chemical weapons it turned out he'd destroyed a decade
> earlier. The Germans walked up to the front door of our State Department > and
> said, "We're at war." It was in all the papers. And when that war ended,
> more than three horrible years later, our troops and the Russians were > in
> Berlin. And we stayed, as an occupying force, well into the 1950s. As an
> occupying force, Madam Secretary!

> If you want to compare what we did to Hitler and in Germany to what we > did
> to Saddam and in Iraq, I'm afraid you're going to have to buy the whole
> analogy. We were an occupying force in Germany, Dr. Rice, and by your > logic,
> we're now an occupying force in Iraq. And if that's the way you see it, > you
> damn well better come out and tell the American people so. Save your > breath
> telling it to the Iraqis - most of them already buy that part of the
> comparison.

> "It would be like saying that after Adolf Hitler was overthrown, we > needed
> to change then, the resolution that allowed the United States to do > that, so
> that we could deal with creating a stable environment in Europe after he > was
> overthrown."

> We already have a subjectively false comparison between Hitler and > Saddam.
> We already have a historically false comparison between Germany and > Iraq. We
> already have blissful ignorance by our secretary of state about how this
> country got into the war against Hitler. But then there's this part > about
> changing "the resolution" about Iraq; that it would be as ridiculous in > the
> secretary's eyes as saying that after Hitler was defeated, we needed to > go
> back to Congress to "deal with creating a stable environment in Europe > after
> he was overthrown."

> Oh, good grief, Secretary Rice, that's exactly what we did do! We went > back
> to Congress to deal with creating a stable environment in Europe after
> Hitler was overthrown! It was called the Marshall Plan.
> Marshall!

> Gen. George Catlett Marshall!

> Secretary of state!

> The job you have now!

> C'mon!

> Twelve billion, 400 thousand dollars to stabilize all of Europe
> economically - to keep the next enemies of freedom, the Russians, out > and
> democracy in! And how do you suppose that happened? The president of the
> United States went back to Congress and asked it for a new authorization > and
> for the money. And do you have any idea, Madame Secretary, who opposed > him
> when he did that? The Republicans!

> "We've spent enough money in Europe," said Sen. Robert Taft of Ohio.

> "We've spent enough of our resources," said former President Hoover.

> It's time to pull out of there! As they stand up, we'll stand down!

> This administration has long thought otherwise, but you can't > cherry-pick
> life - whether life in 2007, or life in the history page marked 1945. > You
> can't keep the facts that fit your prejudices and throw out the ones > that
> destroy your theories. And if you're going to try to do that; if you > still
> want to fool some people into thinking that Saddam was Hitler, and once > we
> gave FDR that blank check in Germany he was no longer subject to the > laws of
> Congress or gravity or physics, at least stop humiliating us.

> Get your facts straight. Use the Google!

> You've been on Fox News Sunday, Secretary Rice. The Fox network has got
> another show premiering Tuesday night. You could go on that one, too. It
> might be a better fit. It's called "Are You Smarter Than A Fifth > Grader?"

Nobody watches Olberman. He is simply an ESPN reject who wishes
somebody would
take him seriously when it came to politics.- Hide quoted text -

Interesting how your only answer is "nobody watches" him, and expect
that to completely invalidate anything he says.
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Okay, nobody watches him BECAUSE he's an inept boob.

Better?

LG
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If you wonder how it came to be generally acknowledged "fact," accepted by all men of good will, that Joe McCarthy was a monster, that Alger Hiss was innocent, that mankind is causing global warming and that we're losing the war in Iraq, try watching the rewriting of history nightly on MSNBC. - Ann Coulter

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