Re: Advice to indy wrestlers on things they shouldn't do in their matches


Greg Grant 333 wrote:

> -If you weigh less than two hundred pounds don't use a forearm, because it
> looks bad even if you do know how to use it.
>
> -On a related note, if you weigh less than two hundred pounds, please to be
> taking the lariat out of your moveset. Look, I understand you guys grew up
> on Japanese tapes and want to act like your heroes, but you have to realize
> that the reason your Japanese heroes use the lariat is because they grew up
> on Stan Hansen matches. Look up a picture of Stan Hansen, now look at
> yourselves. See the difference? Until you look like Stan or even JBL,
> don't use a lariat.

I would change this to include all strong style wrestling. Most indy
wrestlers are too short and too skinny for it.



>
> -If your opponent picks you up over his shoulders and drops you straight on
> your head using the Tiger/Dragon/Lion/Weasel Drop/Driver/Suplex, don't kick
> out at two. Just don't. Kicking out doesn't make you look like a hero, it
> makes the entire match look fake. And not good fake, like a babyface
> getting the hot tag and taking down both heels with his punches fake, but
> bad fake, like why am I watching this bull*** fake.

Normally I would agree, but as you yourself stated above, indy guys are
really skinny and lightweight. A guy that weighs less than 200 pounds
taking a tiger suplex from another guy that weights less than 200
pounds wouldn't have the same impact as a Steiner brother doing it to
someone. An indy wrestler kicking out of a head drop move is believable
because both guys are small and don't weigh much, hence it's not that
painful.




> -Powerbomb is not a transition move. It is a finisher or a setup for a
> finishers. For more information look at the "dropped on head" commentary
> from above.

Actually powerbombs are transition moves. I don't think powerbombs have
any more impact than a powerslam or a snap suplex.



> -If a move takes more than fifteen seconds to setup, don't use it. It says
> marquee on the wrestling, not choreography. Anything that stops the flow of
> the match so you can get your opponent in just the right place, or worse
> have him stand like an idiot in a particular spot looks bad fake.

I would agree with this. Spots that take time to set up work well in
tag matches or six men matches, though. The other guys can fight in the
ring while the move or spot is set up.


> -If you're going to do a spotfest, watch Elix Skipper, Sonjay Dutt, Low-Ki,
> Excalibur, Scorpio Sky and El Generico matches. Take notes. Slow the speed
> of DVD during the heat building portions. Take more detailed notes.

Exlix Skipper is a crappy wrestler that can't get booked outside of TNA
because he sucks so bad, and he's not a highflyer anyway. Low Ki isn't
a highflyer either, he stays on the ground for the entire match. About
the only real highflyer you listed is Sonjay Dutt and even he isn't
much of a highflyer these days. REAL highflyers are wrestlers like Matt
Sydal, Jack Evans, Paul London (outside of WWE), M-Dogg 20, Teddy Hart,
Mistico, Ricky Marvin or Kid Kash.

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