Re: Phony Controversy

In article <1191607940.964108.107290@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Bow Tie <ken_pittsjr@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Oct 5, 12:51 pm, "William A. T. Clark" <clark...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
In article <1191600504.110746.322...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Bow Tie <ken_pitt...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:





On Oct 5, 9:55 am, "William A. T. Clark" <clark...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
In article <1191591429.782106.49...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Bow Tie <ken_pitt...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Oct 5, 8:01 am, Carbon <nob...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 04:56:12 -0700, helensilverburg wrote:
I don't understand what they mean by waiting for months to get an
appointment. If I need to see my doctor today because of an
emergency,
he will indeed see me. If I need to book an appointment I could
see
him
today or the next day, whenever he is available and whatever time
is
convenient for me. To see a specialist the wait is a few weeks
because
of the amount of people who want to see him/her. I assure you,
they
receive quality care. The doctor treats each patient personally
and
privately. If it is an urgent request requiring attention right
away,
your family doctor only needs to call the specialist and you
will
see
him as soon as possible. The emergency room of hospitals are
also
another alternative whenever there is an emergency.

The ignorant zealots here do not want the Canadian system to be any
good
because that would mean their beloved free market system is not
perfect.
Ideology first, reality last.

The contortions can be amusing. You have people who have never been
to
Canada (most of them) telling someone who grew up there (me) all
these
horror stories that have never happened to me or anyone I knew the
entire
time I was living there.

"The average Canadian family pays about 48 percent of its income in
taxes each year, partly to fund the health care system. Rates vary
from province to province, but Ontario, the most populous, spends
roughly 40 percent of every tax dollar on health care, according to
the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.

The system is going broke, says the federation, which campaigns for
tax reform and private enterprise in health care."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/03/20/health/main681801.shtml?cmp..
.

CBS News is not exactly a neocon mouthpiece. Now, if they are willing
to put out something like this (note the date), why are you and Clark
so willing to call conservatives liars when they point out the
inherent problems with socialized medicine?

YMMV

Ken

The Canadian Taxpayers Association certainly is a really unbiased,
centrist, outfit. Right - no vested interests there. We spent over 2
trillion dollars on health care in the US last year (that's about
$6,666
per capita, if my calculator is right), and still left 47 million
people
uninsured. The $2 trillion is about 16% of the nation's GDP, and it is
rising steeply year by year. I'm nor sure you should be getting so
perturbed about what goes on North of the 49th parallel with this mess
on the doorstep.

Perhaps there is a good reason why their currency is leaving the dollar
in the dust, and Canadians are coming to the US to buy cheap retirement
homes? Now I'll sit back and wait for the usual juvenile "comrade"
epithets to come out. I'm disappointed you have never fired a
"Politburo" at me though.

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I was responding to you, numbskull. It's Friday, go have another beer.
I'm sure you'll be headed home by 1:30.

Ken

Wow, Ken, that's too charming for words. Sounds like you started on the
beer a little early today. Still the intellectual content is right up yo
par for you. Amazing what a few actual numbers and real data can do,
isn't it?

Perhaps you can find the earlier contribution of mine in this thread you
were "responding to". I can't.

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Read 'em and weep, Comrade Professor!

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.golf/msg/b1dd8d4a3880aabc

Google is mostly pretty good on this kind of stuff.

Ken

Too bad you didn't read the thread properly, then, Ken. If you had, you
would have seen that the actual thread was between Annika and Dene - my
comment was simply to Helen. Still, if the "Politburo" was aimed at me,
then I can count it as a trophy, can't I?

The article itself is not a CBS News article, it is an AP article. CBS
just put it on their page. Frankly, it is hard to follow, since it jumps
all over the place trying to make its point. Actually most of the
problems seem to stem fro the fact that the Canadian system is mixed
public and private - neither fish nor fowl.

Still, the WHO still ranks Canada's system above the US one. Probably
because of the 45 million uninsured in this country.

William Clark
.

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