Re: Dubya and healthcare

In article <912bg3hdo3coola7dr7mkerrcfs32r06qp@xxxxxxx>,
Jack Hollis <xsleeper@xxxxxxx> wrote:

On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 20:25:53 -0400, "William A. T. Clark"
<clarknospam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Most
physicians succeed in medical school because they master the art of rote
learning large volumes of material, and in practice later they rely on
experience and resources.

Get serious Bill. Look at the undergraduate curriculum of a pre-Med
student and one of a teacher. The MD is still the most prestigious
academic degree and I want to keep it that way. I'm a lot more
worried about incompetent physicians than teachers. I've survived
many incompetent teachers in my academic life. I might not be as
lucky if they were MDs.

BS, Jack, the MD is not "the most prestigious degree", other than to
doctors. There are others that are tougher.

I don't know about Ohio, but in NY any student with 30 graduate
credits can teach undergraduates without ever having taken a course in
education. The MEd degree is handed out in numbers that stagger the
mind and the requirements are so easy that anyone with half a brain
can get the degree.

Not true in Ohio. Besides, you are completely missing the point, as
usual. The reason that the M. Ed. is held in such contempt by your ilk,
is because the calibre of candidate for it is not very good. Why?
Because salaries and conditions for teachers are not very attractive -
certainly not good enough to attract the best and brightest. My point
exactly.

I'd be happy to see teachers get more money, but as long as better
training and stiffer requirements are required and get rid of tenure
so they could get rid of the incompetents.

Total non sequitur again. You can only train what you get, and until you
can attract better candidates with improved conditions, you will be
making silk purses out of sows' ears.

Consider the F-1 Ferrari, for example. Who has the more demanding and
creative input on the car - the guy who designed and constructed it, or
the mechanic that maintains it? I can tell you in short order where the
big money goes in that match up.

William Clark
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