Re: Outrageous



On 21 Nov 2005 08:31:17 -0800, "John B." <johnb505@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>
>larry wrote:
>> On 18 Nov 2005 12:03:36 -0800, "John B." <johnb505@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >larry wrote:
>> >> On 18 Nov 2005 07:30:45 -0800, "John B." <johnb505@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> She was on the Intelligence Committee--she saw the evidence and
>> >> >> interviewed the sources first hand. Now you are saying she was
>> >> >> "taken in?" Wow! Now there is a presidential candidate....
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Larry
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >She saw the intel that was provided to the committee BY THE BUSH
>> >> >ADMINSTRATION. I'm not sure you're aware of this, but the intelligence
>> >> >committees don't do their own intel gathering. Bush blames the
>> >> >intelligence community for providing bad intel as though it were some
>> >> >autonomous entity over which he had no control. The CIA is a cabinet
>> >> >level agency run by his political appointees.
>> >>
>> >> So the Democratically appointed CIA head, George Tenet gave the House
>> >> and Senate purposely skewed data so they would vote for GW Bush's war?
>> >> Wow, is the sky blue in your world?
>> >
>> >I didn't say it was purposely skewed, I said it was wrong. One of the
>> >reasons why it was wrong was that Cheney and Rumsfeld pressured the CIA
>> >into telling them what they wanted to hear.
>>
>> Another baseless irresponsible accusation-- with nothing behind it.
>> You WANT that to be true, but it is not. Cheney and Rumsfeld have
>> more class and more integrity than the entire Clinton Administration
>> together. Both men have been among the most highly respected
>> officials in Washington for 30+ years. I remember just 5 years ago
>> the nation, both liberal and conservative, sighed in relief when Bush
>> chose Cheney for VP-- because everyone knew he was capable of taking
>> over--he has presidential gravitas. So does Rumsfeld, who had already
>> completed two successful careers, highly acclaimed by both sides--and
>> then came out of retirement to become Bush's Secretary of Defense.
>> Don't you think in this highly partisan atmosphere the liberals and
>> their media would have been screaming that from the rooftops if they
>> could point to even a grain of proof?
>>
>> It is highly irresponsible to scream accusations without a basis in
>> fact. Like screaming "witch" at a girl with long hair.
>>
>> Of course that is what democrats DO-- which explains why they remain
>> out of power--in the House, in the Senate, in most governorships, and
>> in the White House. And that could continue for years to come because
>> this country correctly perceives that Democrats are irresponsible--and
>> NOT ready for office. You kids might say or do anything--both here
>> and even overseas--even with soldiers in the field and with Al Jazzera
>> listening and immediately rebroadcasting your every word to our
>> enemies; you can't be trusted.
>>
>> Larry
>
>
>Blah, blah, blah. You are all hyperbole and completely deviod of facts.
>Try arguing from your head. There has been a great deal of evidence
>presented in the press and elsewhere that Cheney and Rumsfeld leaned on
>the CIA to provide intel that bolstered their case. At one point,
>Rumsfeld was so fed up with what he was getting from Langley that he
>set up his own little intel shop in the Pentagon and staffed it with
>people who he knew shared his passion for invading Iraq.

"There has been a great deal of evidence presented in the press" No
there hasn't-- there have been only interviews with unscrupulous
liberals on CNN and innuendo on the big 3 that purposefully suggests
that. Real proof of illegal influence on the CIA by the White House
would be explosive front page headlines-an impeachable offense!!!
That has not occurred. In fact even the liberal press has been very
careful to only suggest--They know all they have to do is suggest and
you libs will do the rest. And here you are touting a hint of a
rumor as fact.

But you desperately want it to be true! It is sickening that MANY
people who should be first and foremost for their country -- are
obviously hoping our leaders fail--just because they are republicans.
You WANT our forces in Iraq to fail, the death count to climb, the
economy to falter, inflation to go up, the stock market go down,
Christmas to be gloomy, etc. etc. You want whatever hurts Bush,
whatever would lower his popularity and that of other republicans.
You would hurt this country and your fellow citizens just so you can
win elections and regain power. Well "beware of what you wish for,"
because if you regain power by pushing our current leaders down, you
will not enjoy ruling. Don't bother changing the furniture because
you won't be in office long.

Democrats are always going to be ripe for exposure because so many
are crooks. Crooked is as crooked does. Your labor unions, trial
lawyers, "Rainbow Coalition," etc. and socialist-leaning politicians
actually think the end justifies the means-- So they stupidly skirt
the rules over and over again. As predictable as the sunrise. So we
will investigate tirelessly and when we discover what they did, we
will jail and impeach them.

Larry
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