Re: The game of 'golf' is not a race!

nativetexan_1 wrote:
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> > RoR wrote:
> > [snip]
> >> Our course uses 7 and 8 minute spacing. Our stated pace of play is 2:15
> >> per 9 holes,
> > [snip]
> >
> >
> > That is painfully slow.
> >
>
> That may be painfully slow to you, but not all of us are accomplished
> golfers.

I understand, but that really has little to do with it. You
can play in under 4 hours and shoot 125. It's not all the
ball striking that takes up 4 hours, it's all the other stuff.

> 4 hours for a two-some (4 1/2 for a 3-some or 5 for a 4-some) is
> not unheard of for those of us who don't drive the ball 280

It's not unheard of for folks who do either.

> (and, at times,
> only the 80 part) or hit the green from 80 yards out every time. There are
> still those shots at which we hit more earth than ball or more air than
> ball. We don't play on the top-notch courses, so you'll likely never have
> to deal with us, but I suspect there are more of us here than are willing to
> speak up just to be insulted.

I don't mean to be insulting. Quite the opposite, I'm trying to
open peoples eyes that I don't really think understand just how slow
they are playing. They get started on courses (of all prices) where
it can easily take 5+ hours to play a round of golf and they think
that is "normal" so 4.5 seems "quick". It's not, not by a long shot.
I've played very casual rounds, with lots of lost balls and all
manner of bad shots, and they took 3:45. A course which asks you to
play in 4:20 is being VERY generous.

>
> That said, you must understand that I believe in being ready to play when it
> is my turn, but I do have a pace of play question. What do you do with your
> brother (you can't choose your relatives) who stands, looks, stretches, and
> wiggles for 1:10 on nearly every stroke?

I agree, and this is what causes long rounds. You have to say
something
ultimately. A course here specifies 30 seconds to make a shot. But
I've played with such folks, and I know your frustration. I've tried
every diplomatic means of which I can think to suggest that he just
"hit the darn ball".

> This is one pace of play violator
> most all of us could get upset with. He is one of those who will tell you
> "I paid my money, I'll take all the time I want." I have quit playing with
> him for a while, but then I get to feeling guilty and play again only to get
> upset again.

About all you can do. At some point you just have to tell him that
his selfish, self centered attitude ruins the fun for you.

To some extent the courses themselves are to blame. There should
almost
be a "market" for different paces. I'm sure many a course could make a
profit advertising that they won't "rush" players around and that they
"allow" 4.5 hour rounds. Equally, I suspect a well run course that
advertises 3:45 rounds could do quite well too.

.

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