Re: Home schooled kids forced back to public...

Tom Enright <freddy_hayek@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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On Mar 18, 11:03 am, The BorgMan <m...@xxxxxx> wrote:
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The BorgMan, if I was in the mood, I'd turn the lights down low and
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Dan S. <danUNDERscoreGOEShereSLAUGH...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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The BorgMan, if I was in the mood, I'd turn the lights down low
and reply with soft music, but you'll have to accept this
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Tom Enright <freddy_ha...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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On Mar 17, 11:08 am, The BorgMan <m...@xxxxxx> wrote:
Tom Enright <freddy_ha...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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John Rogers <tiger7...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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Will a child grow up at a significant disadvantage to other
children is he/she is not?

Absolutely.

"Significant disadvantage"?  Oh bull***.
Not learning to read nor write or being blind or not knowing
basic
math is a "significant disadvantage."  

No, those are beyond significant disadvantages.

Knowing the origin of the
species has helped YOU in life?  Really?
Absolutely.

You are a biologist?

No - and I'm not a plumber either - but knowing how to do
plumbing (or rebuild an engine, or roof a house, or...) has
helped me in life quite a bit. Why do you think only a biologist
would be helped by knowledge about biology?

I'm sure you can go on
about learning about the dos and do not dos about science,
critical inquiry etc.  but rejecting one, tiny, aspect of
biolo
gy
is hardly going to alter anyone's future.
Evolution is not "one, tiny, aspect of biology". The theory of
evolution is the basis for all modern biology, the central
theorem underpinning it.

No it is not.  I don't need to know anything about evolution to
dissect a frog or classify algae.

Actually, you need to know a good bit about evolution to
correctly classify and understand algae. You don't need to know
evolution to dissect a frog, but it sure makes the knowledge you
gain from dissecting a frog much more useful.

FFS, get a little perspective.  At least if you answered the
question "yes" instead of the faux-emphatic "absolutely" it
wouldn't have been so obvious.

Not being able to understand the basis of all modern biology
is a significant disadvantage, just as being taught that sun
orbited
the
earth would be a significant disadvantage.

Not understanding  ANY biology is a disadvantage, not
understandi
ng
evolution is a minor disadvantage.

You need to know nothing about evolution in all but a few
fields.

Medicine of all sorts,

Bull crap.  You don't need to know a thing about it for any
medical field.

Yes, yes you do.

If you don't think a working knowledge of evolution is helpful
when working on antibiotics or vaccines, I'm not sure you're very
in touch with reality.

biology, biotechnology, anthropology,
bioinformatics, farming, animal husbandry, epidemiology,
engineering (of any sort where genetic algorithms are
useful),...

It's useful knowledge in quite a lot of fields.

Oh, let's just call BS on the lot of them.

(farming, hahahahahahahha....)

You don't think an understanding of evolution is at all useful in
creating new crops and crop hybrids, whether through old school
hybridization/breeding techniques or through genetic modification?

Genetic mutation and human evolution are decidedly /not/ the same
thing.

Is this where you try to claim human evolution is somehow different
than evolution of all the other organisms on earth?

YOu can have a working knowledge of genetics and never crack a big
bang book.

What?

Evolution has nothing to do with the origin of life. The origin of
life has nothing to do with the Big Bang, that would be the origin of
the universe.

Are you trying to conflate three unrelated theories here?

Now this is just getting silly. In your mind you should have a good
grasp of evolution in order to engage in:

Medicine of all sorts
biology
biotechnology
anthropology,
bioinformatics
farming
animal husbandry
epidemiology
engineering (of any sort where genetic algorithms are useful),...

but when it comes to the Big Bang and the origin of life on Earth you
don't need to know about it? You know how ridiculous you sound?

I didn't say you didn't need to know it - I said they are three,
unrelated theories.

He said "you can have a working knowledge of genetics without ever
cracking a big bang book"

That would be like me saying: "You can have a working knowledge of
mathematics without ever cracking an anthropology book"

Right now, there is basically almost no evidence supporting any theory
for the origin of life - and no scientific consensus. So I have no
problem with students not learning the various basically unsupported
theories surrounding the subject.

Evolution is essential to any biology education, and the big bang is
essential to any astronomy/astrophysics education.

--
Aaron
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