Re: TMQ on MPG Standards
- From: "David Loewe, Jr." <dloewe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:49:08 -0500
On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 22:03:53 GMT, Dennis J
<drjudsjr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
hey, "David V. Loewe, Jr" <daveloewe@xxxxxxxxxxx>'s been through solid1) You didn't answer the question.
matter, for crying out loud. Who knows what's happened to his brain?
Maybe it's scrambled his molecules...
On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 00:21:19 GMT, Dennis Jwe pull Farm machinery, typically weighing over 80,000 lbs...
<drjudsjr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
hey, Ben Stewart <benjstewart@xxxxxxx>'s been through solid matter,
for crying out loud. Who knows what's happened to his brain? Maybe
it's scrambled his molecules...
On Sep 16, 1:16 pm, alicam...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
On Sep 16, 1:58 pm, "J.C. Watts Enslin" <jens...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=easterbrook/080916
"...Lee Hyun-Soon, president of Hyundai, told the Wall Street Journal
last week his company will meet the entire 2020 standard by 2015, and
will do so entirely with conventional vehicles -- no complex plug-in
hybrids, just sensible engineering using existing technology. Whenever
Washington seems to get serious about oil waste, Toyota, Honda,
Hyundai and Subaru put their engineers to work -- then build, at
American factories staffed by American workers, vehicles that comply
with MPG rules. Whenever Washington seems to get serious about oil
waste, Chrysler, Ford and General Motors put their lobbyists at work
to dilute or evade the standards."
Accurate and sad.
Hyundai does not make large vehicles, therefore the current reglatory
market suits them. If tomorrow gas fell to 10 cents a gallon Hyundai
would be lobbying the government to restrict the size of vehicles due
to safety standards.
BTW: WTF is "oil waste"?
Wow. I knew you lived in Michigan, but I never realized that you were
an engineer at GM too!
Nice gig.
Maybe when you get bored, you and your engineering friends could rent
a Honda and take a trip to a Toyota plant for a little benchmarking.
not GM, his company seems to be still making money...
I do have to partially agree with him though, there will always be a
demand for "Working vehicles" but SUV's and Luxury Pick-ups are just
passenger cars in disguise. the trick is to segment CAFE to allowable
ranges for different segments. those LARGE DIESEL powered trucks you
see on the road (if they're loaded) peak at 5MPG, and about 7 empty
?
What do you mean by "LARGE DIESEL powered trucks"?
My father's Ram 2500 diesel gets better mpg than that. When I drove a
semi back in the dark ages (aka the early to mid 90s), I got better than
that - fully loaded.
2) What kind of farm machinery? The world's biggest combine weighs less
than 44,000 lbs and I am hard pressed to think of a bigger farm machine
than a combine.
http://www.vincelewis.net/combine.html
3) To pull over 80,000 lbs, you need a oversize permit.
--
the Current Fuel prices seem to be enough to help change the output of
the Big 3 WRT personal passenger cars. and yeah I'm thinking about a
Saturn Vue Greenline... don't know much about the Explorer Hybrid
yet...
maybe a 500 Hybrid....
"He who made kittens put snakes in the grass"
Ian Anderson
.
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