Re: Obama Calls Palin A Pig

On Sep 10, 9:43 am, samson <nos...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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On Sep 10, 9:21 am, samson <nos...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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On Sep 10, 8:33 am, samson <nos...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In article <e235c9ec-57c6-42e1-a8c8-d7dd0e4591e1
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On Sep 10, 8:49 am, Tom Enright <freddy_ha...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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-Tom Enright

I'm just curious why the repubs instantly think "Palin" when they hear
the word "pig"....

I tell you what, though. The Republicans are running an evil but
winning campaign. They have taken the excitement from Obama. They
have taken his issue of change and made it theirs. (This is an
old Clinton strategy) And they are distoring the truth to attack
viciously in battleground states. (The old Atwater/Rove approach.)
And they have set up a war room to refute or cry victim at anything
the Obama campaign says within minutes. (Carville strategy)

If the best Obama can do is to return with lipstick remarks, the
dems might lose again.

S.

You're a perceptive man, Samson

They're also doing a nice job with "images" - example - the Rosie the
Riveter posters with Palin's face superimposed on it.

Okay - so I've just put you in charge of the Obama campaign.  Your
candidate just made a stupid remark, that while likely intended NOT to
insult, is certainly being read that way by your opponents -
meanwhile, your campaign has seemingly lost its mojo and its way.

What do you do?  What is your strategy moving forward?

Honestly, I don't know. I think the winning strategy is to find ways
to attack McCain using distortions, as McCain camp is doing, driving
up McCain's negatives. I would not want to do it, and it
carries enormous risks, especially against a war hero. But if my
only concern was winning, that is what I'd do. That is how Bush
beat McCain last time.

Someone else said he thought the Obama camp should stop attacking
Palin. This is partly true. Biden and Biden alone should be doing
that. People don't elect vice presidents. Quayle got crushed by
Lloyd Bentson in the debates, but the little man in the tank still
lost.

The other issue is the debates. Obama will need to pull of a wonky,
Clinton-style mastery of the issues, especially foreign policy, that
will show him to be a guy who winning plans to take care of things.
I was always impressed when Clinton would say something like: "We have
four things we must do." Hold out his fingers and work through each
one. Obama might not be quite that sharp, but I have a feeling he'll
do very well in the debates.

McCain = George W. Bush....OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER until the
November election.

Dan

He's doing that now, and in theory it sounds like a winning strategy.
But he's slipping in the polls. fivethirtyeight.com still has
Obama ahead, but he'd trending down.

Because he's spending too much time worrying about Palin. They need
to get back on message and make this about the economy. It's always
about the economy. In the end this election is about giving Obama a
shot at correcting the last 8 years or giving the republicans a do-
over.

The pundits yesterday were talking about the McCain campaign and how
they should put Palin in the front row at the presidential
debates...McCain has effectively turned the race for president into a
carnival side-show. Are people falling for it? I'd say yes just
judging by the reactions of people in this chatroom...myself included.

Dan
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