Re: 2nd amendment protects right to fire-arms

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:12:45 -0400, Trevor Bauknight
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The Grand Beckoning wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:30:45 -0400, Trevor Bauknight
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The Grand Beckoning wrote:
On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 20:38:38 -0400, Trevor Zion Bauknight
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In article <ukqd6416varbdsjfs9kvmtin4lsa3g0mbr@xxxxxxx>,
The Grand Beckoning <the@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 15:05:06 -0400, Trevor Zion Bauknight
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The Grand Beckoning wrote:
On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 13:49:49 -0400, Trevor Zion Bauknight
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The Grand Beckoning wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:19:06 -0400, Trevor Zion Bauknight
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The Grand Beckoning wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:29:01 -0400, Trevor Zion Bauknight
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The Grand Beckoning wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 00:38:56 -0400, Trevor Zion Bauknight
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The Grand Beckoning wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 23:02:21 -0400, Trevor Zion Bauknight
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The Grand Beckoning wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:31:22 -0400, Trevor Zion Bauknight
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Google Beta User wrote:
"Unlike the elitist view that believes Americans cling to guns
out of
bitterness, today's ruling recognizes that gun ownership is a
fundamental right -- sacred, just as the right to free speech
and
assembly," McCain said.
McCain's just a ***.
He made a very clever (and relevant) connection between a
landmark
ruling and Oduma's stupid remark.
It was hardly worthy of Sean Hannity, let alone a presidential
nominee.

It was an effort to compact a soundbite and all the bloviating it
has
generated into another pro-gun soundbite.

Trev
He hit at the heart of BO's hypocrisy, which is obviously
smarting.
If that's hitting at the heart of it, McCain's in serious trouble
come
November.

Trev
I think pointing out that BO will lie and say anything to get
elected
is a smart thing to do. It puts all of his other foibles, and their
lame explanations, into doubt as well.

Obama is a liar, and has already been proven a liar many times, and
with his conspicuous move now to the center I predict he will become
increasingly exposed.
I think someone can examine a set of facts and change his mind
without
it becoming a character flaw. If that's what McCain's done all these
times, fine. Own it.

But don't call Obama a liar for changing his mind about something and
then give McCain a free ride when he does the same thing more often
and
about more serious topics.

Trev
McCain changed his mind after gas prices went through the sunroof.
That's not pure political expediency, as any decently-equipped leader
should be able to change his position when the situation warrants it.

But a Con Law prof being so ill-grounded in his beliefs on the 2nd
Amendment? C'mon, this is nothing less than a lie. And his
explanations of Wright and his Pentagon-bombing friend are simply
contradictory and unbelievable.
I'm really not sure that Obama even flip-flopped on this issue. He
apparently said one thing, while someone else associated with his
campaign said another. I'm not sure this reveals an ill grounding in
his
beliefs on the second amendment.

Wright and the weatherdude? Seriously, still?
Yeah, you know how devastating that can be and want it to get gone
fast don't you.
Devastating because he knows Bill Ayers and had Wright as a pastor and
friend? I've got friends, good close friends, that say outrageous
conservative *** and I don't expected to be tied to their views for
life. Obama has clearly distanced himself from Wright because it was
demanded by people like yourself that he do so. He had two choices:
damned or damned. He chose damned, and is working to put pseudo-issues
like that behind him and get on with effective leadership. I hope he
succeeds.
Yeah, he distanced himself from a terrorist and a hatemonger only
after decent people became outraged and his poll numbers started to
tank. What an outstanding leader, "commander in chief" indeed.

(Shame on you, Barrack Obama).
What should he have done?
Heh...as if that even needs to be asked.
WTF? I don't suppose you actually have an answer, do you? What was
Obama's good option?
His good option, as in political option? It's all about the lies with
you people. How should he have covered it up best? Well, some say
hindsight is 20/20, but here we go: DON'T BEFRIEND TERRORISTS AND/OR
HATEMONGERS TO BEGIN WITH!
Would you hesitate to run for office because of the political views of
your friends and family?

If I was friends with terrorists and hatemongers? I'd probably feel
entitled to office and hope I could slither in without anyone
noticing. If things started to get noticed, I'd first say "that's not
the terrorist I knew" and if it still didn't go away I'd act angry and
only then would I publicly disown them. The American public is so
stupid they'd fall for it, especially if the liberal media was on my
side.

So yes, I'd run, so I could destroy America as my "friends" would if
they had the chance.

You're delusional.

Trev

HAHAHA YOU JUST SAID ODUMA WAS DELUSIONAL HAHHA!
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