Re: A 17-year-old can get an abortion, but not join the Marines?

rich hammett wrote:
Minun olisi pitänyt tietää, olisi pitänyt tietää,
olisi pitänyt tietää KUKA SINÄ OLET, Randolph M. Jones:
Trent Woodruff wrote:
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:07:09 -0400, "Randolph M. Jones" <rjones@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
James Schrumpf wrote:
Quiet, "Randolph M. Jones" <rjones@xxxxxxxxxxxx> -- I'm transmitting rage.
It *sounds* like your real problem is that you think parents should be allowed to prevent their 17-year-old child from having an abortion. Is that what you think?
Yes, I think a minor should have to have parental permission for any kind of serious procedure like that. Including joining the military.
Can't buy a drink/vote for president but can get an abortion? Hmmmm.
Okay. So you are advocating the position that a 17-year-old pregnant woman should be forced to deliver the child if her parents say so. Not sure why we had to go through all that when you could have just answered the question in the first place. I'm sure Trent will be along any minute now to apologize for his comment about my "biased" interpretation.
Not at all, because your comment is worded in such a way as to be as
highly biased as possible.

I'm sure what you meant to say was that Mr. Schrumpf words it in a way that tries to obfuscate the logical entailment as much as possible. So if you mean that my bias is to make the implication clear, then I suppose you're right. But I doubt that's what you mean, o crotchety one.

Yes, Schrumpf didn't want to lay out the implications of his
opinion. You got him to do so. Congratulations.

I really can't understand what Trent is bitching about. Schrumpf
wouldn't answer a direct question about this side of his opinion,
so you pinned him down into answering it (or being even more
obvious in avoiding it). I know why he would only want to
publically consider the fetus in this, and not the girl with
a tremendous stake in this question, but I don't understand
why Trent would want to support not considering the girl
directly.

I don't get it, either. But of course I must acknowledge that by getting Mr. Schrumpf to fess up to the direct implication of his opinion, I was obviously JUST TRYING TO TRAP HIM!!@@!#!@!!!

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