Re: Boom
- From: rich hammett <bubbarichau@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:06:16 -0000
Minun olisi pitänyt tietää, olisi pitänyt tietää,
olisi pitänyt tietää KUKA SINÄ OLET, Homer Hickam:
On Feb 25, 12:35 am, jimbrown...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
On Feb 21, 1:54 pm, Homer Hickam <hhic...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Feb 21, 1:07 pm, Chris Mihos <cmi...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Feb 21, 1:58 pm, John Rogers <tiger7...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Chris Mihos <cmi...@xxxxxxxxx>. we live in a world that has walls, and
those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Whose gonna do it?
You? You, Chris Mihos <cmi...@xxxxxxxxx>?
On Feb 21, 1:06 pm, John Rogers <tiger7...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Homer Hickam <hhic...@xxxxxxxxxx>. we live in a world that has walls,
and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Whose gonna do
it? You? You, Homer Hickam <hhic...@xxxxxxxxxx>?
On Feb 21, 8:06 am, Chris Mihos <cmi...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Feb 20, 11:10 pm, John Rogers <tiger7...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080221/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/dead_satellite_48
or
http://tinyurl.com/287v92
Probably all a lie since, as we all know, it'll never work.
John Rogers
AU Class of 1985
The Al Del Greco of Atlanta
"You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very
well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive,
we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build
your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a
gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will
follow ours." (General Sir Charles Napier)
I am comforted to know that if another country tries to attack us by
letting us know well ahead of time that they are dropping a wounded
satellite on us with no control system that we have been tracking for
months, we are ready.
The satellite was going faster than a ballistic missile so to hit it
took a little extra. In any case, it's all done by computers which
don't need anything but an object in space coming over the horizon.
Once the sensors lock on... Katy bar the door. Didn't you ever read
Back to the Moon? How we learned to do this is all in there. I snuck
it in between the lines.
I think Chris is just gettin' a littly hinky because you are lightly
treading on his territory in this here chatrum.
Dude, I'm an astronomer, not an aerospace engineer. This subject isn't
"my territory" at all. I'm sure Homer runs circles around my knowledge
of rockets and spaceflight.
I thot you was the expret on anything above the mesosphere?
Heck no. In all seriousness, that kind of *scientific* effort
typically falls under the name "Earth and Space Science" not
"Astronomy".
Thanks, Chris, but I only know what I read in the papers (of course,
I'm not saying WHICH papers). But how about that great blood-red moon
we had last night? Quite the harbinger of something about somebody.
The Delphi oracle would have made a great deal out of it.
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Homer, is what we have right now good enough to at least make someone
think twice about lobbing nukes/missiles in our direction? If so,
that buys us more time to improve this. Something these guys love to
forget is that we didnt fly to the moon on our first trip into space.
Things like this take time and improvements to accomplish such a huge
task. For some reason, we've got several posters who seem to relish
the thought of this not working. As far as I know, they live here to,
so I cant understand their thinking skilz.
Yep, you got it. The whole idea is to put a doubt factor in a nuke-
tosser's mind and thus complicate his problems. It is possible to
overwhelm any defensive system but to do so is a very expensive
proposition and difficult to test in advance.
Last I heard, it took one decoy missile or one piece of chaff. Has
there been more testing?
Our present system
could stop an accidental launch or a simple "mad General" launch of a
few missiles.
I have not seen ANY testing that supports this. The testing I
have seen demonstrates a good chance to stop one ballistic
missile with no countermeasures.
This is what the Japanese and Taiwanese are interested
in, to put a psychological doubt in the minds of the North Koreans and
Chinese planners. Here's something to look for in the future. The
North Koreans announce they're going to launch a test rocket. As in
the past, it will fly over Japanese territory. The Japanese say
nothing, then shoot the blamed thing down with an SM-3. Oh, the
gnashing of teeth just south of the Yalu! Most likely, Obama will try
to shut our ABM program down to pay for all his promises. Look for a
dog fight in DC like you've never seen before. The stakes will be,
depending on your point of view, Socialism vs. Survival, or Welfare of
the People vs. the Evil Military-Industrial Complex. You think the
last eight years have been contentious? You ain't seen nuthin' yet,
folks.
I think the Japanese and Taiwanese need a shield (or the idea
of such a shield) to hide behind. I worry about a President
Cowboy doing bad things to other countries while depending on
such a shield. But though Kim has been acting sane for a little
while, I could imagine him being the first to test such a shield
just for the hell of it. Despite the CNN article today showing
that their nuke plant is disabled. Or, more likely, giving one to
some Asian terrorist group to launch from Siberia. I wonder if
he has any countermeasures he can give them in a convenient
package?
PS - Obama has already proposed shutting down NASA's return to the
moon program. This is more than it seems. After the Shuttle is
retired in 2010 (inevitable now due to the age of the fleet and lay-
offs in the work force), we will no longer have any means to put
Americans into space. If that doesn't matter to you, be happy and
enjoy all that "hope."
That's not just "hope," that's "CHANGE". Something like that
would help me make up my mind to be against him. Got any
quotes or cites?
rich
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