Re: Hawaii looks like ***

On 2008-01-03, Seapig <seapig@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jan 3, 7:35 am, Constance Reeder <consta...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 2008-01-03, Seapig <sea...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jan 2, 9:11 pm, Constance Reeder <consta...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Would you be happier if they didn't get their chance?  If they'd
played another crappy team in a crappy bowl and won, we'd never hear
the end of it from their fans.

It would be like the yapping of tiny lap dogs (kind of like it is
now).

It would be easily beat down for anyone with any knowledge by
showing that they had the 130th-rated schedule and won 5 games by 7
points or less, and that the 110th-rated team took them to OT.

When did almost losing games become as bad as actually losing games?
When did overtime wins start counting less than wins in regulation?

When trying to evaluate performance. It is a win, but a Pyrhhic victory
if done too often. Everybody understands the one bad game situation, but
5 bad games?



The way to shut up the fans of these
teams is to put them on the field with a team that can beat them - the
system succeeded in doing that this year, where it failed with regard
to Boise State and Utah in the recent past.

but I'm also not sure how winning all those games equals "season-
long failure." The object of the game is to score more points than
the other team, period. Hawaii failed yesterday, for the only time
all season.

Because it is the first time they played a top team. Period.

How does that equal "season-long failure" Question Mark.

They had a season-long failure to prove they were a good team.
Do you think edging bad teams is outstanding success?

Do you think the opposite of failure is "outstanding" success? Where
are the outstanding victories that prove that Kansas is a good team?

Did you see me arguing that Kansas belonged? I think Mizzou was more
deserving, but hey -- they had their chance against Oklahoma too.

Or USC? Or Ohio State? They may have had better wins than Hawaii,
but I didn't see them beat anybody outstanding.

But they creamed most of the bad teams, and beat some good teams convincingly.

And all those teams had actual failures, not your "success, but not
pretty enough success" type of failure.

Sorry, all your lawyering wins you nothing in my court. Hawaii has NO
evidence to show they are a BCS-caliber team. You think OT wins against
FCS-caliber teams are evidence -- I don't, and I don't think that it
is evidence for anyone who knows anything at all about the game.


Playing an
FCS schedule and winning a bunch of nailbiters should land you
in the BCS? I guess so.

There shouldn't be a BCS, but that's a discussion for another day. I
just don't think it's too much to ask that a team be allowed to lose a
game before their season is deemed a failure.

Failure as a season for a WAC team? No. Go to the Holiday Bowl, and shoot
it out as teams have in years past. Success, on a WAC level.

Failure as a season deserving of a BCS bid? Yes. They simply didn't
belong, and the total domination of Georgia showed that.

There have been a number of people arguing that Illinois didn't belong
-- did you see me giving them static? No. Even though I am an Illinois
fan, I know that Mizzou and possibly ASU belonged more. The Illini were
outmatched. Even at that, they gave the pre-season #1 (and my pick for
best team in the country) a much better game than Hawaii gave Georgia.


If they had creamed all the really bad teams they played, I wouldn't
be talking about this. But when the 110th-rated team -- who Central
Arkansas beat by 21 -- takes you to overtime, something is rotten
in Denmark.

If the object of the game were to cream your opponents I wouldn't be
talking about this, because I wouldn't be a football fan. I prefer
the sport where the team with the most points at the end of the day
gets to celebrate, not worry about whether they won by enough points.

Then the next team to play such a putrid schedule -- or even a worse
one -- should get a pass to the MNC, eh?

I agree about the BCS, by the way. But it would nothing to shut up the
Hawaiis of the world -- in a year like this, teams like Hawaii would be
complaining that they didn't get in to *that*.

--
In character, in manners, in style, in all things, the supreme excellence
is simplicity. -- Longfellow
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