Re: George Bush Forced Me To Have An Abortion




"James Schrumpf" <jaspammenotschrumpf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quiet, "mianderson" <clayabc@xxxxxxxxxx> -- I'm transmitting rage.


James Schrumpf wrote:
Quiet, mianderson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- I'm transmitting rage.


James Schrumpf wrote:
Quiet, mianderson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- I'm transmitting rage.


alicamdun@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
xyzzy wrote:

alicam...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

Jay Furr wrote:

When I read the article, the summary you posted is
spot-on. The conservative politics of the Bush
administration *did* force her to have an abortion she
didn't want. Had Plan B been readily available, it would
have been a moot issue.

Too bad George didn't stop-by the house before they got
busy and deliver a "safe sex" speech to two educated
adults. Too bad she couldn't have bothered to simply
call a doctor and make a freekin appointment. Her
doctor didn't prescribe the pill, thousands of doctors in
Va. do. She should have gone to one.

Perhaps you didn't read the article? She called several
doctors and none of them would help her and none would
provide referrals to doctors who would,

She called two doctors who wouldn't perscribe the bill
and a mid-wife who could but had no appointments.

"I needed to meet my kids' school bus and, as I was pretty
much out of options -- short of soliciting random Virginia
doctors out of the phone book -- I figured I'd take my chances
and hope for the best."

She could have called a doctor from the phonebook but decided
not to, so clearly she really wasn't really that upset. Did
she even ask for a referral?

The # of doctors that will take walkins(remember it's a time
sensitive thing) is growing lower and lower.......even a bunch
of family medicine physicians in this area won't just take
walkins who aren't previous patients. Yeah she could have gone
to the ER and paid who knows how many hundred dollars for the
priv. of an NP or PA giving them a script......so I guess
technically she could have gone through a lot of inconvenience
to avoid an abortion, but for most people there is a limit to
how much they will do to avoid THE CHANCE of such a thing
happening(avoiding abortion). Going to the drugstore for
something over the counter is easily in that
category.....driving all over the area looking for a fm clinic
that takes sameday new patient walkins or going to the ER
doesn't.

But the larger issue enright, is that you still can't give us a
reason why the morning after pill shouldn't be OTC.......



"Why" it isn't OTC right now is irrelevent to her problem.

word game here, but: if the right gets to paint it as completely
her "fault", my side will be just as pleased to not even think of
her current situation(going to have an abortion) as a "problem".

Whose fault _was_ it she got pregnant?



She _knew_ it
wasn't, and still messed around with a dangerous pregnancy.

Her fault, not W's.

so if W, by appointing putting some religoright cronies in
non-scientist FDA positions, in effect makes tetanus shots
illegal(for whatever reason) is it his "fault" when a child dies
from infection secondary to jamming their hand through a rusty
nail?


Such a straw man. The worst scarecrow ever would be embarassed to be
seen with it.

how so?

--

First, because there are no ethical/moral considerations in giving an an
anti-tetanus shot. And secondly, she could easily have prevented her
pregnancy, but chose not to. Anyone taking a Category X drug should be
much more responsible about unwanted pregnancies than the average
person. Thirdly, she could have gotten the drug from Planned Parenthood
(as she admitted later), but didn't think of it.


Fourthly, she could just keep the baby. Its been known to happen at that
age, drugs or no drugs. Step up to the plate and take responsibility.



None of the above of W's fault. I don't even have any objections to the
drug being available OTC; it's just sloppy thinking to blame the
President for her problems. --
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James Schrumpf http://www.hilltopper.net

Play like your couch is on fire!


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