Re: Pick question


todd wrote:
> So with the proposed change you don't get a call
> in situations where play would have continued without stoppage anyways or in
> those same situations, you get a stoppage of play with the disc going back
> to the original thrower. So it seems like the same game when no call is
> made and more stoppages when the defense makes the wrong decision.
>
I think getting the right (says me) outcome is more important than
avoiding a slight stoppage now and then.

> I agree with you that speeding up the game and cutting down on stoppages and
> the length of stoppages would improve the game. I don't think removing
> continuation only when the disc isn't in the air will really have much of an
> effect. The defense still has little to lose by making marginal calls.
> (Because there is no penalty for making bad calls and the call still
> prevents the completion.) The only time the defense loses its incentive to
> make a call is in situations where play would have continued without
> stoppage anyways.
>
> Todd
My point is, while the defense may still not have anything to lose in
making a pick call (legit or not), they would have less to gain by
making the call. Thus, some of the incentive for making a marginal call
would be gone.

All I want to do is eliminate those situations where a pick call
indirectly causes a turnover. It happens a lot, and it sucks, IMO. Does
anyone agree with me, or should I shut up about this?

.

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