Re: Mohammad Yousuf

On Apr 22, 10:55 pm, Geico Caveman <spammers-go-h...@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
arahimwrote:
Then do you believe the Hindu culture created the suicide bombers in
SL? If you do atleast you would be consistent (consistently wrong but
still improvement for you to be consistent).

If that statement were true, you would find Indian, Nepali, Bangladeshi (few
that are left) etc. Hindus rushing to Sri Lanka to blow themselves up for
their Sri Lankan co-religionists cause.

The objective fact is that they don't.


They have had support from the mainland.

The corresponding situation with Muslims ? Do we have Muslims of far flung
nationalities revving up to commit acts of senseless violence rushing to
whichever hot spot you name (Israel / Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan etc.) ?


Umm in the case of Palestine the organizations have been local. In
case of Afghanistan if there have been forgein fighters who brought
them there initially?

The objective fact is that they do.

Saudi, Jordanian, Syrian, etc. Muslims have lately been involved in
committing acts of violence in Iraq. Politically, there is no rationale for
these acts unless you wish to state that in Islam, politics and religion
are inseparable - a statement that would be at once true and disastrous for
your line of argument above.


People do irrational acts. Like trying to control populations and keep
them subservient like in Kashmir when they do not want it. Or fighting
in Afghanistan for a decade to try and install a puppet government
(Soviets). Or trying to keep together conquered people in a counrty
(soviets again among others). Or even now the Russian federation
trying to keep Chechneya. That does not make those acts right.
Obviously to those committing them there is rationality.
The representative of the Tibetan freedom movement supported by and
sitting in India suggests that it is time that the Tibetans resorted
to suicide bombings to achieve their ends.

Pakistani, Saudi, etc. Muslims have been involved in committing acts of
violence in Afghanistan.

Pakistani, Uzbek, Afghan, etc. Muslims have been involved in committing acts
of violence in India.

There even have been a few well publicized cases of European converts to
Islam participating in acts of terrorism in the middle east.

There are numerous other examples of Muslims from nations that have no
political involvement in areas that they commit their violent acts in.


So is it acceptable to commit violence if you are from that area? Do
not countries enter wars where they are not directly geographically
connected.

That shows that your attempt to equate the political terrorism of a tiny,
ethnically distinct, geographically confined minority of Hindus targetting
a similarly ethically distinct and geographically confined set of people
(the Sinhala majority of Sri Lanka) with the terrorism of a tiny, but
ethnically diverse, geographically delocalized minority of Muslims
targetting a wide variety of people in many different countries, is not
only wrong but also possibly intentionally intellectually dishonest.


It was given as an example against your muslim sounding name theory
and I stated it is ridiculous so may be you should look for dishonesty
somewhere else in suggesting it as my position. It was also to point
out the fact that minorities different in religion who percieve
domination by force have resorted to this tactic. So it is a political
tactic not a religous one in that sense. And I gave source material.

Though it would be plain to any one with a smidgen of common sense, its
pretty apparent from the facts that the Tamil Hindu terrorism against the
Sinhalas (as violent as it has been) is country and ethnicity specific, and
hence cannot have any religious roots. It isn't even religion specific in
its targetting as I have never heard of a case of Sri Lankan Tamil Hindus
targetting say, Thai Buddhists.


So when different Iraqi groups do it to each other it must not be
religion specific either?



you guys to root this evil out so that the rest of us can stop looking
askance at you.

Who are these "you guys"? Should then you be looked at askance too? :)

With immense satisfaction (and with no small degree of relief) I can say
that I am not a Muslim.

That is youtr pregative. May be Mohan can comment on it:)
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