Debra Li lies against FL are now fully exposed


MORE LIES FROM DEBRA LI.


From: Debra Li - view profile

Date: Thurs, Aug 17 2006 3:00 am
Email: "Debra Li" <dli41...@xxxxxxxxx>

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These lies are displayed prominently on Fast Larry's web site....
Lie #1 - He is a professional billiards and pool player.
TRUTH - Larry is a liar. He's nothing more than a APA hack (SL3 at the
most) with delusions of grandeur. Rack 'em up, Grindinger - I'll kick
your ass!
FL TELLS THE TRUTH: I joined the Apa when it began and had a 4 digit
member number. I was in the Apa until they turned me pro when at the
national championship I broke and ran 6 racks and out. I can give you
people's phone numbers who saw it. One is now the manager of a top
Brunswick table dealer in a major city. I was their highest ranking at
a seven, won 2 city championships, 6 divisions, I have the trophies to
show you if you want to drop by my place. I can also show you my TASA
two world championships, I won a senior world event, and my 60 trophies
for winning 9 ball events, mostly amateur contests, a few semi pro's
are in there, several were for nice prize money which is what got the
Apa to declare me a pro. I won prize money at the Hopkins, $1500, I
was teaching for money, I was on the Artistic pro tour, so somebody
turned me in and they sent me the letter saying I had violated my
amateur status and my play was then considered professional by them. I
was featured on the cover of the Apa magazine and inside with a full
bio when I was a very badly sand bagged 6. When I won the Atlanta city
championship and came to Vegas as a team captain my true skill was seen
and they made me a seven for life there. If you break and run 6 racks
and out where the opponent, another 6 never gets a shot, bingo, 7 for
life, that is the way it works. Back then in upper level competitions,
you played to your full handicap, so 6's raced to 6, at home to 5.
So little debbies lies saying I am an apa 3 are just that, real sick
lies. Most of my students now are either apa 6's wanting to be
7's,. or 7's wanting to be semi pro's. I have given over 3,000
private lessons and over 10,000 students have been in my clinics and
pool schools. On tour in practice matches I have defeated two top 10
and two top 20 players in the last year so I can still play a little
now and then.
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Lie #2 - He is also a former TASA world trick-shot champion.
TRUTH - TASA was an organization started by Fast Larry. Initially he
crowned himself as The World Champion. The two events held by TASA were

Won by Tom Rossman. There is NO record of Larry ever winning anything
with TASA or anything else for that matter. Most people have never
heard of
Fast Larry, and if they have heard of him - they ask - "Isn't that the
idiot from the internet?" That is Fast Larry's claim to fame. He is an
internet
***.
FL TELLS THE TRUTH. Yes I am the founder of the sport of Artistic.
Tasa began true competition in artistic in 1995 and ran events until
they retired and gave it to the BCA in 2000. Three World champions
were each won by Tom Rossman, Rick Wright and Fast Larry Guninger. The
president of TASA was Willie Smith, black man and the secretary was
Asian which I tried to show people from all walks of life, all races,
creeds and different religions were welcome to come play. TASA will
be happy to verify this for you in writing. TASA ceased to promote
events because they lost money on each one they conducted. The BCA has
the same track record as well.
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Lie #3 - Larry was proclaimed to be a billiards expert by Mike Shamos
in Billiards Digest.
TRUTH - Larry has shamelessly e-mailed Mr. Shamos constantly over the
past few years. He wants you to stop, bird-brain. You've already proved
that you are a pain in the ass, now go away.
FL TELLS THE TRUTH. DEBRA FINALLY FOUND OUT THIS IS TRUE and its
printed and published in BD so instead she makes fun of me. I have not
sent Mr. Shamos an email in years nor have I called him. He has been
very generous with his time and given me copies of many rare books and
things to help my research such as the 1827 Minguad book in French and
in English. Every year at the BCA show he comes up to me and spends
15 minutes asking me to show him shots he has never seen before which
only I can do. We are very good friends and the truth is he respects
and likes me and I am his biggest fan. I have his private cell phone,
do you Debbie?
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Lie #4 - Larry is also a UPA men's 9 ball touring pro ranked in the top
76 best players in the world. TRUTH - Larry gets points for just
showing up. He has NEVER won a match on the pro tour - he's a walk over
and everyone knows that except - Fast Larry.
FL TELLS THE TRUTH. THE FACTS ARE I AM A TRUE TOURING PRO AND I AM ON
THE UPA MAIN MEN'S 9 BALL WORLD TOUR. AS OF JULY 2006 I WAS RANKED
35TH IN THE WORLD, I WAS THE highest ranked artistic player, the
highest ranked player over 50, the highest ranked player over 60 in the
world. Those are the facts and those rankings can be viewed at the end
of this article. Rankings go up and down monthly. Lie all you want to
little Debbie, you can not take that one off my resume. Why, because it
is the truth. It is from the UPA web site.
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Lie #5 - Larry became the fastest player alive in 1994, pocketing all
15 billiard balls in just 33.9 seconds, hence the handle " Fast Larry
.." TRUTH - Larry goes two and out very quickly in every tournament he
enters - hence the handle - "Fast Larry. "
FL TELLS THE TRUTH, ONCE MORE I CAN SEE LITTLE DEBBIE HAS BEEN DIGGING
AND FOUND OUT THIS ONE IS TRUE so she makes fun of me instead. So Dave
Pearson told you he accepted my world record on the 9' table and he
holds the world record on the 7' table. The record was properly
documented and sent out to every one 13 years ago. Every one accepts
it but you little Debbie. The fact is, I am the fastest pool player on
the planet and will continue to use that title until somebody breaks my
world record and Dave is the only one who could and we discussed this
at the BCA show and he only wishes to continue on the smaller table. I
am also the most powerful pool player on the planet as well. When
somebody duplicates my 12 rail bank on a pool table, then I'll stop
using that title as well. As your gimp to make 9 rails with a shot,
bet you all he can do is 8? Then you will see the magnitude of that
record. It was a gargantuan shot. I bet that word gargantuan really
gets you wet babe. The last time you got laid Ike was in office and
tricky *** was veep....

Lie #6 - Quotes on his web site - "Larry you are The Great One. The
best shotmaker I ever saw." - Ray Martin , 3 time World Champion and
BCA Hall of Famer.
TRUTH - Just by chance I ran into Ray Martin recently. I asked him
about this and he told me that he had NEVER heard of you. He had no
idea who you were or what you did. He didn't even know about your dumb
ass dog. So you lied again you big pile of monkey poop.
FL TELLS THE TRUTH, Ray is in the Largo St Pete area and not Orlando
Debbie so you running into him is purely your own fantasy. THERE CAN
BE TWO EXPLANATIONS HERE, ONE YOU ARE JUST AS USUAL LYING LIKE A DOG,
WHICH IS PROBABLY IT, OR RAY KNEW ME BY MY real Christian name then
which was Larry Grindinger, and he today would perhaps not know who
Fast Larry is. A lot of people got confused when I changed to a stage
name of Guninger in 2000. A lot of people never connected the two as
the same one. Fact, I was with Ray in the Stealth booth at the BCA
show and hung out with him in the Largo area in CJ's. where Ray
watched me drink a nice Carbenet with CJ when we played 3-c together.
He spends the day at the bar smoking his big cigars and playing video
poker. Now how would I know that?
He sent me a picture of him self unsolicited which says, To Larry, the
best shot maker I ever saw, best wishes, Ray Martin. He sent me the
cover page of his book, the 99 critical shots in pool where he wrote,
To Larry, the great one. Yours are the best shot I have ever seen.
Good Luck, Ray Martin. Any one who wishes to email me their address to
fastlarry@ bellsouth.net upon request I will mail you a copy so you can
see his actual signature and realize once more, Debra lies when she
knows the truth. We all must learn to ignore pools greatest liar of
all time, Debra Li and her Chinese side kick, Eric T Hu...And his gay
lover boy Joey tu fu. All they print, are lies upon lies, lies on
lies, over and over.
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Lie #7 - Fast Larry and Wonder Dog tour the world performing over 100
mind boggling trick shots. They are one of the top entertaining acts in
the game.
TRUTH - They didn't even sell out Sheboygen. Larry misses every shot he
tries, and the only people that are entertained are the people that
laugh at him looking stupid with his idiot visor, loud hawaiian shirts,
and stupid sunglasses on his dog.
FL TELLS THE TRUTH. All of my competitors have one show of about 30
shots. I offer 3 shows in a day which features 100 shots which do not
repeat. I carry with me on the road over 250 great shots I have
mastered. I am the only one who can perform an entire show of 30 world
class masses all DF 10 and 11's.
Debra claims to be educated, but note, she can't even spell
Hawiian??? My wife Yo Sarah hates my shirts too and I have had her to
all 5 of the islands many times. She wants me to dress like Jack
Nicklaus. At the BCA show in Baltimore, I came out cold, broke and ran
15 and out with out missing a ball. I then performed non stop trick
shots for 1 l/2 hrs and made every shot I attempted or the audience
asked me to shoot. I do not expect the Chinese Debra Li to like my
dog; they eat dogs and have no respect for them. 56,000,000 people
have dogs and love them so Wonder Dog has a huge audience who loves to
see him play. They love his sun glasses, he is too cool. My idiot
visor which is from the Masters tournament, which Debra can not get
into and could not buy one if she wanted to, its for insiders only,
same reason she cant get into the BCA show.
Gee, go on Sunday TV and watch real golf pros wearing the same visor
and playing for a million dollars. The visor shields my eyes from the
glare of the overhead light; the same reason card players use them.
Nobody ever made fun of Arnold Palmer for wearing a visor. She says:
loud Hawaiian shirts. My business manager dresses me for the filming
of my last three DVD's and that is the image they wanted me to
present. An informal guy. I wanted to film in a tux; they said no,
that is the past. My shirts are really mild compared to most and the
colors b&w and blue on black, very low key. I have shirts from Maui
that will blind you with so many bright colors but I do not entertain
in them.
At the 8-2006 BCA show, the entire staff of 26, including all the
women, all wore men's Hawaiian shirts and they were green and a lot
brighter than the one I had on so my Magnum PI look little Debbie is
catching on and I hope it becomes the new trend. Down with ties and
vests, let's play so we are comfortable but look nice. I play on 6
tours and nobody has objected to my shirts. In fact over a dozen pros
on the UPA compete in them now. The director of the BCA Mr. Ducoff
came up to me and complimented my on my blue shirt and said he had the
exact same on with him and would I please not wear it on the last day
so we both did not have the same shirt on and I said sure, I have a
dozen with me, no problem. So little Debbie, when you make fun of me
and my shirt, you now make fun of the entire BCA staff as well. You
act like you live in Jew Joy-zee and not in Florida. If you ever got
out of your bean counters office and actually got sand in yo toes you
would understand this is what the cool dudes do.
Loosen up Vampire, if you wanna look cool and run with the big
cahuna's like me and go hang 10 on the north shore you gotta get with
the program. Don't run down to walmart and buy a bunch of Chinese
crap that will fall apart the first time you wash it. Wear what THE
GREAT ONE WEARS... You need to clean up the image of da gimp. His
official pool uniform, white worn out tennis shoes, white socks, jeans
with holes in them, white T shirt that says born to lose on the back,
the guy looks like he climbed out of a ditch with a shovel in his hand.
Put him in the men's peoples shirt, its only $78, make him look like
me Debbie, a big star. The price is high because these bad boys do not
wrinkle and are very high quality. I bought my first one on Rodeo
Drive 90210, bet you never shopped there sweetie?
http://www.jamsworld.com/jamsworld/
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Lie #8 - Minnesota Fats, his original teacher gave him his nickname,
because he played fast and loose.
TRUTH - Minnesota Fats NEVER trained Fast Larry, nor is there any proof
that he had ever met him. Larry has tried to emulate Minnesota Fats,
but all he has accomplished is his reputation as an internet ***.
FL TELLS THE TRUTH, DEBBIE, GO TO SCOTT LEE AND MAKE HIM PROVE THE SAME
STATEMENT. Who keeps proof of this and who in the hell are you little
no body in pool, a simple Chinese bean counter who has given up the
game for golf and has not hit a pool ball in over a year to ask me, a
real pro, any thing, or demand I prove any thing to your worthless ass.
When you did play your high run was two. You could not even get on a
league team, nobody would have you. You only come into pool sites to
attack and trash people because hate and hurting people is what you do
as the Vamprie of hate which is why you are a very sick psycho. Fatty
gave me my handle in 1960 at Millers at 12th and Grand in KCMO. I HUNG
around him and Omaha Fat, Martin Kiaman then a lot, both lived in my
area close by. I also hung around them at all of the Johnston City
Jansco events I went to every year. My picture is on the cover of
Billiards Digest, I am sitting in the stands right behind Luther
Lassiter and Boston Shorty just in case you need proof I was there.
Fatty and Martin, Marty, Omaha Fat, were in town a lot in the late
50's and early 60's. My 3rd great teacher was Jimmy Caras and he
worked with me up to his passing in Jacksonville, Fla. Debbie, the
person who is know as the top internet ass hole of all time is you dear
one. You earned that title for this kind of she-yit you are running on
me now which is posting lies, you know to be lies, for the sole purpose
and with malicious evil intent, to harm me and my career. For these
things I now sue your ass for slander so I'll be seeing you in court
soon. Enough of your she-yit, you bitch I now shut down and go legal
on. You tell these fookin lies to the judge bitch, try and prove them
there and there is where I have your ass on a sling.
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Lie #9 - (Compilation) His high run is 274 balls. He holds the world
record for the high run at rotation, 75 balls, and the most balls made
on the break at 8 & 9 balls, eight balls fell. He tied the PBT most ran

Racks record at 9 ball.
TRUTH - Bull***. Bull***. Bull***. & Bull***. Fast Larry never
competed on the PBT. He couldn't have. Larry was an APA6 when the PBT
was in existence. The PBT did not keep record for "most racks run" and
if they did the title would have probably gone to Nick Varner, Mike
Sigel, Earl Strickland, or Johnny Archer - NOT FAST LARRY.
FL TELLS THE TRUTH. I NEVER SAID I PLAYED ON THE PBT; I COULD HAVE IF
I WANTED TO, AND I GOT ON THE UPA DID I NOT as the oldest rookie of all
time. Yes they kept records, ever hear of Pat Fleming and accustats
little Debbie. Only 2 people broke and ran 9 racks, no 9's on the
snap or short game early combos. Luat and Medina. You can buy these
tapes from Pat and here Incardona tell you that this is the PBT record.
I have written many times that my high run of 9 racks in 9 ball, 8
racks in 8 ball, equaled the pbt high run records, but I stated mine
were not in pro competition, but were in gambling games and really did
not mean much.
Yes my high run is 274 balls and yes I do hold the rotation high run
world record. 60 calling every shot including the break one ball, tied
by Efren Reyes, and 75 not calling the one on the break, but calling
all the rest of the balls on the run. The only reason Efren, who is
the greatest rotation player of all time has not broken my record is
the Phillipions flip to see who breaks after every game. So for Efren
to run 5 or 6 racks, he has to win the flip 5 or 6 times which as you
know is a 50/50 thing. If Efren just kept his run going, he wins, they
rack, he breaks again, he would have ran 10 racks for sure. The guy if
so far beyond me, I am not even in this guy's league. I got in the
zone, got hot and put together some really strong runs in the mid
90's. So little Debbie, here are your two choices, A.... You can
believe it. Or Choice B.....You can believe it not.
http://www.thebilliardstour.com/straight-pool-high-runs.html
Debbie, frankly my dear I do not give a flying fook what you believe
because you do not count because you are a giant fookin nobody bitch.
Up your fookin ass with all your false lies, slanders and libels. See
your ass in court over this she-yit, bank on it now.
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Lie #10 - Fast is a master level instructor and currently writes
columns in 6 magazines in 4 countries, the USA, Canada, China and the
UK. He is read by one million fans a month from 37 countries. He has
also appeared on the cover of 8 billiard magazines. He holds gold
medals and 4 Grand Master's titles in the World Trick Shot Competition
plus a World Artistic Title. He is considered one of the greatest shot
makers of all time by many hall of famers. Larry was inducted into the
trick shot hall of fame in 1998.
TRUTH - well... where do I start? Hmmm let me just christen the entire
paragraph as "BULL***" and add this little snippet - THERE IS NO TRICK
SHOT HALL OF FAME. You keep saying this because you are jealous of Mike

Massey's induction into the BCA Hall of Fame. Mike Massey is a great
pool player and a great person. You suck at pool and at trick shots and
you're an idiot. For that, you get inducted into the *** Hall of
Fame. Congratulations on your induction, Dum Dum..
FL TELLS THE TRUTH, THERE is no trick shot hall of fame she says and I
lied. This one proves this bitch seriously does not know she-yit. At
the 1997 Allen Hopkins Expo TASA conducted the North American
championship of Artistic which Rossman won and I came in second place
at. The trick shot hall of fame was announced there by the MC, Mike
Shamos who inducted the first four members and he explained who they
were and what they had done which were François Minguad, Jimmy Caras,
Joe Hood and Michael Phelan. George Middleditch, Tom Rossman and I
then on the two Diamond tables performed these great champions best
show shots for the standing room only crowd of over 500 there. Full
coverage of that event with my pics and the hall of fame were ran in 3
full page articles in both billiards digest and also 3 pages in pool
and billiards magazine. l l/ 2 years later I was finally inducted into
the hall as the 20th inductee. There is no other trick shot hall of
fame today other than the original TASA model. Mike Massey and Tom
Rossman and George Middleditch and Paul Gerni were all inducted before
me.
This and all of the above have been explained dozens of times over and
over to Debra Li who ignores all of this hard evidence which proves
what I did. She has never asked for any of it and ignores the truth.
This is not about the truth. She prints lies to degrade and dishonor
my name with her lies, libels, and slanders. This is a slander
campaign hoping you may believe her ridiculous made up lies, none of
which are true. This lady is very sick. She is crazy, a sick stalker.
Just ignore her mad ravings. She is the vampire of hate. Do not feed
the vampire. I'll just clean her clock in court with a slander law
suit, that should then shut the bitch up. I don't have to continue
to take this *** from her any more and I am not. Laws protect me from
criminals like her who slander people which is a crime.

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