Re: Most overrated (but still HOF caliber) player of all time


Seapig wrote:
>
> Gehrig was a young player having his first very good season, but
> Lazzeri was a younger player having his first season, period

And was coming off a well publicised season in the PCL where he had 222
RBIs


- a rookie
> who was over 80 points inferior to Gehrig in both OBP and SLG.

And do you think that ANYBODY on St. Louis knew either Gehrig's SLG% or
OBP in 1926?

I'll tell you one thing they knew, that Lazzeri had 114 RBIs in 1926,
which was 2 more than Gehrig had.


> Alexander had the platoon advantage against Lazzeri, and the Cardinals
> liked the Alexander-Lazzeri matchup enough to bring Alexander into the
> game to face Lazzeri earlier with the game on the line.

No, there was no "matching up" being done in 1926. Hornsby just thought
that Alexander was his best bet out of the bullpen with Haines tiring.
He got lucky that Tony's long drive went foul with the bases loaded.


> > No matter how you slice it, the Yankees had a better chance to WIN THE
> > GAME if Ruth had not tried to steal 2B.
>
> Until somebody factors in every realistic possibility, something I'm
> not sure is even possible, I think the jury is still out.

Look, I've already shown that they had a higher chance of a walk off
extra base hit by either Meusel or Gehrig (about 6.5%) than they had of
Ruth attempting to stael 2B, making it, and scoring on a Meusel hit
with nothing else happening that would have scored Ruth from 1B without
the steal (about 5%)

So it's already a better chance of the Yankees winning the game
outright by not attempting to steal than there is of the Yankees tying
the game because of Ruth's steal, which is no guarantee of them
eventually winning the game.

If you think that the jury is still out on this I'd like to get you
into a computer baseball league for money.

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