Re: Pratville, Al./Now For Jerry, mean old men & "The beat goes on". 0~;)P

On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 15:54:18 -0700, the unknown flailer
<thuythu@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Aug 2, 5:25 pm, sky...@xxxxxxx wrote:
On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 14:12:10 -0700, the unknown flailer





<thuy...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Aug 2, 3:32 pm, sky...@xxxxxxx wrote:
On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 05:25:40 -0700, the unknown flailer
But, you
would, without information but with rank speculation and assumption,
"lay it off" on the novice having been "poorly trained." More fool
you for serving your own self-affirming interests rather than 1)
waiting for the facts before making a judgement,

And who's going to give us these facts.

I was gonna wait on the nut since he was the person who put up the
news story and suggested he was waiting on more information. He not
good enough for you? Who do you want to get the facts from? Get them
yourself if you got a problem with where the facts come from.

Someone from ASC with irons in
the fire and a home DZ to protect?

Possibly, though if you got off your fat ass, instead of just gnashing
your teeth, you might consider getting it yourself from whichever
source is more rhetorically agreeable for you.

A honest hard nosed investigation
needs to be done.

So, get to it. What are you wating for?

Unfortunately County law enforcement are usually wuffo's or bought off
in cases like Alabama, Georgia and Louisiana.

But, fortunately, this in no way should impede you in any
investigation you might attempt since you can choose for yourself
which sources for the investigation are rhetorically acceptable.

I suppose the USPA
Regional Director would be a good one to get involved--

So, contact the USPA regional director. Do you think he's not already
involved? Find out and grill him. Here, I'll help you:

http://www.uspa.org/contact/bod.htm#southern

All the info you need to contact the guy is right there.


--If he has no
money in ASC that is, their skydivers too you know...I dunno, you tell
me, you've know every damn thing in the world since at least Level 7
of the AFF program----Fool

I've already told you, dummy but I'll tell you again. Well, why don't
you contact the family and or the county and or the other skydivers?
Maybe interview his instructors and ask his heirs for a look at his
first jump tape if he had one. Go intervierw his doctor if he had
one, the M.E.'s office over there might have a line on that. Get
yourself a medium, hold a seance, and ask the guy himself. Interview
the people he jumped with, any JM's involved, going over his tests,
viewing any video if any exist, It's a finite solution, Jinnie - if
you're truely curious and ~not~ just using some poor guy's demise as
an excuse to gargle some more pretension.

The facts are the kid couldn't kick out of it-did he even try?,

The fact is he didn't kick out of it. "Couldn't" or could is
undetermined, as is whether he "even tried."

why
didn't he chop it?

This is also unknown beyond your conclusion he didn't chop it because
of being "poorly trained."

Novice mentality and fear of the first reserve ride
may be contributing factors..

Yes, as "may be" a shit load of other speculative contributing
factors.

..I dunno....

That's right - you don't - but this didn't stop you from summarily
judging that he was "poorly trained," did it?

Alls I know was at the
beginning of the 1990's practicing Basic Emergency
procedures were drilled into students and novices so hard it became a
motor memory function..

As it was in the mid 90's when I started, as it was later, and as it
is now - as I observe all the time. But all of that is beside the
point and irrelevant since 1) you have no idea whether "practicing
Basic Emergency procedures were drilled into (this guy) so hard it
became a motor memory function," or not, and 2) How you were
supposedly "drilled," once upon a time, has nothing to do with how
that guy was trained - unless he also trained in "the beginning of the
1990's," (not impossible, just unknown) - and you gargling on how you
were "drilled" is transparently nothing more than self-serving
bragging so you can feel, somehow superior (and affirmed) in
comparision to someone apparently trained later and who is now dead
because he, as you have already judged, was "poorly trained." RIP.

...You could be graying out and do it
automatically.

Can you imagine circumstances where someone "couldn't" do it?

If unable to complete the full act before zoning out
the RSL took care of the rest of your business.

Which is beside the point again since its unknown what he could or
could not do.

Another product of
pushing basic shit like that really hard in the training programs
is.....Theirs no thinking to it.

But it's no magic bullet. I don't have the numbers but I would expect
that there are multiple incidents over time where someone from the
"beginning of the 1990's (who) practic(ed) Basic Emergency procedures
(which were) drilled into students and novices so hard it became a
motor memory function" who also spun in or otherwise gave speculation
to the premise that the incident they were involved in was due to them
being "poorly trained."


A student or Novice or anybody for
that fact that stops to think about chopping a main for what ever
reason may well be lost at lower altitudes because its a high speed
and unforgiving sport.

While that is realistic, this also has nothing to do with what is
known about the guy who you have judged died because he was "poorly
trained."

Thats why its necessary to help kids along with
a kick in the ass once in a while-----fuck being popular

But then, this is not to say that the poor guy who died wasn't helped
along or otherwise wasn't "kick(ed) in the ass once in a while," or
otherwise was neglected because some entity or another was trying to
be "popular." The irony here is there are numerous circumstances when
you were a novice where you were getting your own ass kicked as you
were being helped along and your take? They were bunch of anal,
uptight skygods, or some such. It's all well documented, dummy.

....bsrp
....jlk
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