Re: Dear Metoos


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Africa colonization would still have occurred - land & power.
Australia colonization would still have occurred - land & power.

Probably not by the British.



Why?

The British didn't have great interest it seems in the Southern Asia
region
they were more interested in Indian/ China etc. Indonesia was controlled
by
the Dutch and the French and Germans also had interests in the region.
The
Dutch had mapped some of the coast in the C17 calling the Country New
Holland. The poms showed little interest in Australia till the American
War
and lost a place for their convicts which was the reason behind the First
fleet leaving for Aus. It may be strongly suggested that the American War
of
Independence was the imputes behind the Australians white colonisation



They still had Canada, and recall that much of the area beyond the
colonies
wwas held by the French.

and didn't the French have a strong presence on the East coast of Canada

This would limit the expansion of the colonies into the interior.

Maybe I have misunderstood your point


Even if they showed little interest, if another nation had started sttling
there, Britian would have established a presence.

Maybe, remember the French were wandering around Australia at the same time
as Cook

If they didn't then they'd be...well..left out.

I'm not sure to many people were impressed by what they saw in Australia, no
obvious wealth the West and North which was what most saw (after forgetting
to turn left from the roaring 40's to the spice Islands and beyond ) was
extremely inhospitable. Remember the 1st Fleet nearly perished in the first
couple of years of the colony. If the French or Dutch had settled maybe the
British would have reacted but the reason they did what they did was mainly
about a place to dump convicts. In saying this there was the Matra ( an
American who suggested that it was a good place for Americans who had stayed
loyal to Britian) proposal to colinise NSWs as a trading post to China and a
place to grow flax but this was rejected.


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