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On 19 Cze, 02:27, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick"
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The Constitution is a living document.
Living? You must be kidding or talking about
constitution
of
country
other than the US. FYI for the last time US
constitution
was
amended
in 1992, 202 years after initial submission of the
original
amendment.
IMHO your constitution maybe considered as a
"living"
proof
of
creationism.

That's because they got it right. :-)

According to the 18th century standards it was big
achievement
and
really modern document. The problem is that since then the
World
made
great progress and you are still at the same place.

And we're still waiting for the rest of the world to catch
up to
where
we
are.

Do you mean Iraq and Afghanistan?

No, where we are as a society.

Don't wait too long. There are some parts of the world who are
pretty
sure they've left the west behind, at least industrially if not
economically. As for the society part, there are cultures that
have

And these would be......?

Toyota (GM's still ahead but with their profit picture that may change
soon), Nippon Telegraph & Telephone, Nokia, BASF, ThyssenKrupp,
Siemens, Hitachi, Samsung, Nestle, various mining & crude oil
companies, Shell & BP are close behind Exxon Mobil, various energy
companies, insurance industry, building materials, metals producers,
etc.

Ah - so some fairly narrow industries, who would likely not be where
they
are except for the US market, manifests to being ahead entrely of the
US?
Check.







You're still ahead in aerospace, defense, health care,
pharmaceuticals, Boeing (appears to be pretty dependant on foreign
airlines), Coke, entertainment, tobacco,

Looks like the Pacific Rim (actually much of Asia) and continental
Europe generally have had significant successes, if not in sheer
numbers, then in profitability. The tide's turning, or turned, and us
westerners better shake a leg if we don't want to be the next third
world countries.

always thought we westerners were simple barbarians, albeit armed
and
aggressive ones.

And they can think that, if it makes it makes 'em happier.
Doesn't mean its accurate. :-)

You're right there. It doesn't matter what others think, rather what's
accurate. We're losing ground. We're no longer at the centre of the
industrial world, at least not the profit centre, and profit's what
drives industry.

And yet millions of folks still struggle to come here.

You made a typically arrogant presumption. I called you on it.

Unsuccessfully.


For the record though I doubt that to a lot of folks in the auto
industry Toyota is a marginal player, nor would Samsung and many of
the others be seen as trivial by the other big players. As for their

So toyota and Samsung are the yardsticks bny which you meansure a society?

success being tied to North American markets, that's true in many
cases. We westerners have become a consumer society. We've rested on
our collective laurels for years and those sneaky Asians have allowed
us to become dependant on their services and their industry. We should
declare war and get things back to the status quo we like, with us as
the undisputed top of the food chain.

Dennis


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