Re: PADI Training vs.. others

"chilly" <slarson@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Brian, where is this that a guest is *not* allowed to assemble their own
gear? I've been lots of places that assemble gear for their divers, but
I've never been any place where they've refused to let me assemble my own,
if that was my desire.

Regardless of what Hugh says about white gloves, I'm as befuddled as you.
I've frequented plenty of dive ops around the world and, while I've found
plenty that want to set up my gear for me (and several that have set my reg
up upside-down), I've never encountered a single dive operation anywhere
that has refused me from setting up my own. That experience includes
Southern California, Mexico (Ensenada, San Benitos Islands, Cozumel, Cancun,
Puerto Morelos, Dos Ojos Cenote, Cabo San Lucas, Cabo Pulmo, La Paz,
Ixtapa), Grand Cayman, Roatan, Bonaire, Belize, Puerto Rico, Cuba, Florida,
Costa Rica (Cocos), Maui, Kauai, Hawaii, Rangiroa, Moorea, Palau, Truk, Yap,
and Thailand/Burma.

Perhaps Dweeb is speaking from experience elsewhere?

I know former divers who went into activities that still have meaningful
barriers to entry, or just quit, because of this. We're talking people
with four digits of logged dives, who spent a couple grand a year in
the LDS.

They just became bored of it, that's all. No one would quit doing
something
that they loved just because of the reason you are quoting. That's
absurd.

Absurd indeed. Here's what he said in the entirety:

Here's the problem. Before they drop out, they go on one trip, and
because there are so many of them, they're ubiquitous. Dive operations
have to alter their procedures to deal with these dilletantes. Thus
you get places where policy is not to ALLOW guests to assemble their
own gear. This makes diving less enjoyable for the active diver. The
presence of these people also annoys a lot of long term active divers
who sought, through diving, to escape the kingdom of learned
helplessness. It actually drives some of them out of diving. I know
former divers who went into activities that still have meaningful
barriers to entry, or just quit, because of this. We're talking people
with four digits of logged dives, who spent a couple grand a year in
the LDS.

"Thus you get places where policy is not to ALLOW guests to assemble their
own gear."

Uh huh.

It actually drives some of them out of diving. I know
former divers who went into activities that still have meaningful
barriers to entry, or just quit, because of this. We're talking people
with four digits of logged dives, who spent a couple grand a year in
the LDS.

And people with 1,000+ dives were driven from diving because they weren't
allowed to assemble their own gear.

Uh huh.

Was Dweeb moonlighting as a speechwriter for the Bush Administration these
past years, perhaps?


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