Re: A New One on the International Security FARCE

On Sep 3, 10:27 am, Steve Kramer <st...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Reef Fish wrote:
On Sep 3, 6:23 am, Steve Kramer <st...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

........ still waiting.....

Steve Kramer
Chiang Mai, Thailandhttp://www.photoenvisions.com

This group used to have a poster who was ALMOST an
adult when he retired from teaching in 1/31/2001. He used
to plagarize a passage by Henry Thoreau in his sig,

Had you actually read the book that the sig was from, you'd know that in
fact it was a paraphrase from it, not a quote to be plagerized. But as
an academician of your standing has no need to actually read anything,
you never knew that. You're tenured, right?

I was a tenured Full Professor at a major Ph.D. granting USA
university since 1997, 7-years after my Yale Ph.D. degree
in 1990. I have also taught as Full Professor at the
graduate level (Master and Ph.D) at Harvard
University, University of Chicago, Vanderbilt Univerisity
and elsewhere that would not even admit you as a
student, given your background.

What you've done was/is plagiarism, in the eacademic AND any
other sense. The correct attribution is to indicate that it was a
passage by Henry Thoreau, whether it was a paraphrased
version or not. It DOES NOT matter where you got the message
from -- you NEVER hinted or attributed the passage you used to
Henry Thoreau. Anyone not familiar with the passage by Thoreau
would have assumed (rightfully) that was YOUR own writing.

That was PLAGIARISM.

You taught grade or high school (in Thailand or Japan) -- how would
YOU know anything about the universally accepted/expected
attribution when you are citing or quoting someone else?

BTW, anyone can check the Google arhives to see that EVERY
time you postedd, you were flamed by a large number of
regular posters -- EXCEPT the Reef Fish. I actually had
spoken a time or two favorably about your posting, and
NEVER flamed you as the others did, in several different
newsgroups. You were, as one may say, the universally
disliked/discredited posters in USENET newsgroups.


'The juvenile sea squirt wanders through the ocean searching for a
suitable rock or hunk of coral to cling to and make its home for life.
When it finds its spot and takes root, it doesn't need its brain any
more...so it eats it. It's rather like getting tenure.' - Michael Scriven

That's better. Scriven was quoted, WITHOUT having to cite the
exact source from which the quote was taken.


He was also suficiently juvenile
to have a program count the number of cigarrettes he did
NOT smoke since he quit smoking, but obviously hopelessly
hooked mentally to his habit.

No question about it. I'm an addict. One day at a time. But being an
addict isn't something 'juvenile.' I would have thought someone with all
your degrees would know that. It's a behavioral disorder listed in the
DSM IV. I thought you were a scientist? I guess not.

You guessed wrong on all counts. So you have a mental disorder
in your cigarrette addiction. The computer program count was just
your JUVENILE way of wasting bandwidth on your addiction.

Your condition must have improved somewhat to have now
foregone your juvenile behavior in posting your sig with that
piece of irrelevance and impertinence.

Nine years, one week, six days, 15 hours, 19 minutes and 1 second. 99019
cigarettes not smoked, saving $24,754.79.
One day at a time.

Go tell that to YOURSELF and your shrink/psychiatrist for your
addictive mental disorder.

I was a heavy smoker for over 30 years until I quit (for
social rather than medical reasons) in 1992. Addiction
(in cigarrettes) is a mental disorder rather than a
physical addiction (such as opium and other hard
drugs) that one cannot quit without any withdrawal
symptoms (if one could quit at all).

I quit cig smoking "cold turkey" without any discomfort.
NEVER missed it once, or thought about smoking a
single time. I have posted this numerous times in
newsgroups. It has now been 15 years, and I never
missed it a bit, NEVER had any physical/lung/other
problems as a result of 30+ years of heavy smoking.

The "studies" that produced the WARNING on
cigarette packs now were based on the slimest
evidence on RATS. There was NEVER a single
"controlled scientific study" on smoking in which
HUMANS were used in the design of the experiment
which is NECESSARY to draw the conclusion about
humans.

That is my personal and professional stand on the
invalid conclusion about smoking that were foisted
upon laymen by the medical profession based on
invalidly carried out experiments and invalid results.

I am a professional statistician, and elected
Fellow of the American Statistical Association
in 1984.

Steve, your ignorance underwhelmed me. <:-o)

> There was ONE adult poster in this thread

Lord knows, you ain't him.

Yes, Virginia, there ARE adult posters in this group,
though most of them had disappeared from posting
here by now.

Actually, we had a lot of posters in rec.scuba.locations as long a you
kept your fighting with everyone confined to rec.scuba. But as soon as
you began cross posting and brought it in here, most of us left. We
don't want to hear your ravings.

On the bright side, I now use Thunderbird to read the news groups and it
has wonderful filters that are easy to use. So on that note... bye. :o)

Congratulations! After all these years of posting in newsgroups,
and 6 years after you retired from teaching, you've finally found the
toy (favorite one by newsgroup OSTRICHES) of using a filter.

Lee Bell is the well-known ostrich. Unfortunately, he also manage
to find snipets of what OTHERS cited from my posts to make a
full of himself in his posting comments.

"Ask him about the EPERB" was his bait -- he posted that
three times to give the impression that HE knew what an
EPERB was while I didn't.

Look up the archives -- I produced the posting records that
showed that HE was the one who made all the errors,
that I got the facts from Wayne Hasson (President of the
Aggressor) himself, and Lee, having learned the fact
from me, then sent to rec.UK to post MY factual postings
as if it was what he knew before learning it from me.

It's ALL in the Google archives.

Lee posted that bait, WITHOUT reading my follow-up,
3 times, before he was tipped by someone (who read
my response) that he was made a complete FOOL for
his misdirected question and bait.

In short, he shot his foot THREE times in quick
succession, while having the other foot dangling in
his mouth for using his "blocked sender's list" ot
"filter".

Only a damned fool in newsgroup needs to have a
filter to know what/who to read and whom to ignore
or read enough to know what the person had posted
BEFORE inserting foot in mouth.

Steve Kramer
"PhotoEnvisions" Photography
Chiang Mai, Thailandhttp://www.photoenvisions.com

A better sig line, given your autobiographical info in
this post would be this:

Steve Kramer
Retired (1/31/2001) high school teacher
having a mental/behavioral disorder of cigarrette
addiction.

-- Reef Fish Bob.
Read my posts from http://groups.google.com and
my profile in Google:by clicking "view profle":

Robert F. (Bob) Ling

Title: Professor & Fellow of the ASA
Quote: To retrieve any of my USENET postings since 1992,
use the "Advanced Groups Search" option, then specificy
author = "Reef Fish", and any other keywords of specifications
for the search.

IDIOTS like Hugh Huntzingers, his sockpuppets and other
flamers always mention my Real Name (given in the
profile) even though I NEVER post with that name but
with "Reef Fish", and I am the only Reef Fish (except for
a few forged posts by Mudshrimp and others) in all the
Google archived posts since 1981.

Those IDIOTS thought I used the posting name Reef Fish
because I was trying ot hide my identiity -- when you can
find enough about my identity and biographical facts about
myself to fill a 100-page volume of my professional
credentials and facts.

-- The one-and-only REAL "Reef Fish" in USENET.





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