Re: A question to Stan

Ernie Wisdom wrote:
"Chimp" <pan_paniscus1859@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
Ernie Wisdom wrote:

In this universe is it right that the view of a few mandate
that all beliefs be removed but theirs.

Not in the slightest bit right. It would be utterly wrong.

Why are you asking such a question?

Because rightly or wrongly some people feel that is what
is currently happing.

Well they are wrong. Pure and simple. And we should
explain that to them, not try to give false impressions as
your first post did.

Where diverse religious flourishes now in this
universe the Creedal Belief of the State is there
shall be no mention of any religious belief accept
that decreed by the State.

In which "universe" would that be? Certainly not
one I'd advocate.

I think it is that one opposite the one you asked Stan about.

Exactly. And what is so wrong about this "opposite"
universe is exactly what is so wrong with Stan's vision.

You can be assured of our opposition to both Stan's
ideals of compulsory theism, and to any "mirror" of
compulsory non-theism.

With the Motto, "There is no God to Trust in".

Has anyone ever asked for that?

While you might not agree some one might feel when a group states that they
do not believe in got wants the removable of "In God We Trust" some might
feel that the In No God We Trust becomes the de facto motto.

Well they are wrong, it doesn't. "In No God we trust" becomes the
motto when "In No God we trust" becomes the motto, not when
"E pluribus unum" becomes the motto.

You do have some weird questions.

And the ones to Stan were not?

Stan has been advocating compulsory theism.

We have not and do not advocate compulsory non-theism.

For over 200 years, multiple religions have existed together,
while not always harmoniously they existed.

Now comes the rise in Atheism, "the unbelief in God or deities"
(Encarta Dictionary).

Which can co-exist entirely peacefully with religions
provided the religious accept the atheists' right to
their views, and vice versa, and everyone is treated
equally by the state regardless of whether they are
religious or an atheist, and the state does not take
sides between the two camps.

Or is that too much to hope for?

No it is not if one side does not try to use the goverment to
wipe out the history of the other.

We're not trying to wipe out history, we're just trying to
ensure that the government stays neutral. And much of
what we object to (the McCarthyite laws altering the
PoA and replacing E pluribus unum with IGWT) are
relatively recent (1950s) and hardly "history".

It's Creed seems to be that there should be no beliefs
other that of the allowed and conforming to the beliefs
of the Atheists.

I'm sorry Ernie, but that is a FLAT OUT LIE. None of
the atheist campaigns in America have asked for that;
and NOR DO WE DESIRE IT.

Now I said seems to be and that is how I see it and perhaps others do to.
Now because I have a belief that you disagree with does that automatically
make me a liar?

It makes you wrong; and makes you one who is spreading
falsehoods. And we have been entirely open as to our
desires and motives.

Because I believe it is wrong to change historic things, as an example.

http://www.freenewmexican.com/news/32902.html

I'll comment on the Las Cruces law suit once I've looked it up.

Chimp

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