Re: Ignorance about running shoes

On Apr 2, 2:50 pm, Dot <dot.h@#duh?att.net> wrote:
bluezfolk wrote:
On Apr 2, 12:36 am, jobs <j...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

bluezfolk wrote:

Plenty of running shoes probably have the ability to last
1000 miles if they have a hard rubber outsole. I think the common
belief among runners is that you shouldn't use them for running for
that long.

I will respectfully disagree. The life of a shoe is dependent on a
combination of many factors - the build of the shoe, the runner's gait,
the weight, etc. So, it's not just a hard rubber outsole. From what I've
seen, the Trigons don't seem to have a particularly hard rubber outsole.
Indeed, my Asics seemed much harder but they didn't last long.

As for the common belief, I'd rather go with my own experiences. It's
like what they tell you about an oil change for you car every 3000
miles. ;-) Try going 4000 and nothing bad really happens. The thing is I
was not trying to get 1000 miles out of it. It just happened. With the
second pair, I have 800 miles, and I'm beginning to feel that it's time
to retire them. Not that I have aches or pains, but they don't feel as
comfortable as they used to. I've had these since late 2003, though.

Although they may look fine, the midsoles are made of a
cushioning material that breaks down after a while. I keep track of
my mileage and that of each pair of shoes I run in, usually at some
point between 350 and 400 miles the shoe retires to casual use even if
it feels good.

Methinks you are erring on the conservative side. How about this for an
experiment - with your next pair, see how long they go without tracking
mileage on them on a daily basis. When they finally start feeling
uncomfortable, go back and add up the mileage and see what you get. I'd
be curious to see what you get.

I've got so many pairs of retired shoes that I have to
throw some out occassionaly to make room for newer ones.

Give them to your local shoe store. They can find ways to recycle them :)

jobs

Eric

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I guess we'll just have to each do our own thing. I'd rather
change my oil frequently and also my running shoes, its the ounce of
prevention being worth a pound of cure thing.

But, like oil changes, shoe changes have ways of telling whether they're
needed or not. If your oil is still relatively clear when you change it,
you probably could get a little more mileage. If it's black at 3000mi,
change more frequently. (I only drive maybe 5-6000 mi in a year, but
usually get oil changed when tires get changed, at least before the
winter changeover since most miles are winter.)

With shoes, if you rotate a newer pair with a more used pair, you can
tell the difference and when one is ready to retire. Looking at some of
my old records the other day, I noticed I never got more than maybe
150mi on my Grid Stabil's before my feet started bothering me. PT
explained they were wrong shoes for me and switched me to Trespasses.
I've never gotten less than about 350 mi/pair, and if their senior miles
are spent on snow, I can get close to 500 mi on a pair with no problems.
I've not taken a pair that far on dirt. I tried going back to my
original pair which only had low 300's on them, iirc, to see if I could
get a few more miles out of them, and they really didn't feel right, so
they are permanently retired, but most of their life was on dirt (little
snow that winter). I judge retirement of shoes by their relative
feeling. I do keep track of mileage, but primarily as a caution signal
to consider the shoe's experience level if something doesn't feel right.

jobs appparently has a fairly efficient stride and shoes last a long
time for him. Shelf life of unused shoes could be a serious issue for
him. I don't think he's going by appearance of soles.

Some runner-shoe combinations have long-life expectancies while others
don't.

Just a different perspective.

As for retired shoes, they can probably be donated to any of the local
charities - drop boxes in grocery-store parking lots work for me since I
seldom get to running shoe store.

Dot

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"The goal is training and adaptation, not destruction and injury."
- John Hardyhttp://www.mountainrunning.coolrunning.com.au/misc/training.shtml


I've been told that roughly 90% of the stuff that gets put
into those drop boxes is sold as rags, only the very best stuff makes
it to distribution to those in need or to thrift stores. My old shoes
would not qualify.


Eric

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