Re: Training Week Ending January 22, 2006

The Trailrunner wrote:
> Phil M. wrote:
>
> > Got it. It just sounded to me like you and TR were saying that age is
> > not a factor in recovery rate. But what I think you guys are saying now
> > is that age is not the primary factor in the need to increase the
> > interval in between hard workouts. But it is a factor. Correct?
>
> Not to speak for Doug, while EVERYTHING could be considered a factor,
> age is way down the list. What age does correspond with (generally) is
> experience. And experience has taught us how to manage/listen to our
> bodies. As Doug said, we don't have the speed of younger runners, but we
> know it so don't beat ourselves up pretending we do. Instead we have
> learned to pace ourselves so that we can go steady for a reaaaaaal long
> time. And like Michael, going at a pace that doesn't seriously impact
> the joints/damage the muscles, allows us to recover from it very
> quickly. The trick for me is to train slow, recover fast so I can train
> more which gives me the endurance to outlast the young whippersnappers,
> then race hard. But when we do "race" we're like anyone else; we need
> more recovery time.
>
> To give you an idea of how I train, I figured out a long time ago that
> in most western ultras, if I average 5-6MPH, that would be pretty good.
> So I generally run no faster than that at any time in training on my
> long runs.

Mentally, that's something I'd have to work on. I still have remnants
of training for Boston in my head. As my long runs get into the 25-30
mile range I'll probably find that I need to work on running slowly. I
think it was in "Running Madness" where Lisa Smith-Batchen said, "Run
slow to finish fast," or something like that.

> I will do somewhat faster short runs but even those are
> mostly still in the comfort range. So for me, a 8-9 minute mile pace is
> "speed work" which doesn't beat me up and the long run at 12 minute
> pace, even for 30M, is usually well within my comfort zone.

Thanks. That makes sense. Is recovery affected by the amount of time on
your feet?

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Phil M.

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