Re: Weight training?
- From: Donovan Rebbechi <abuse@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 14:24:45 +0000 (UTC)
On 2005-09-21, Janithor <Janithor@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes
> Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
>> On 2005-09-20, Janithor <Janithor@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>Does anyone mix in weight training?
>> I used to, but I eventually quit.
> How come?
Because I wanted to focus on running, and having big pecs doesn't help you
> What were your goals -
To get bigger and stronger and also get faster. The problem is that these are
conflicting goals. Eventually you have to choose one or the other.
Are you familiar with the decalthlon ? Well, those guys are pretty slow in the
1500m. The reason they're slow is that you can't be big and strong (like a
thrower) and run fast times.
> did you do this in some program or
> with a coach, or just on you own?
One my own.
>>>I'd like to add weights to
>>>complement my running, not necessarily to improve it. Right now there
>>>isn't an ounce of fat on my legs,
>> Unless you have popup veins on your thighs, there is quite a bit more than an
>> ounce of fat on your legs. If you do have popout veins on your thighs, you
>> probably also have good muscle definition everywhere else.
> I was speaking casually, not formally. I didn't mean metaphysically
> absolute 0% fat. I meant that when you look at my legs, they look firm,
> toned, and in good shape, and you don't see any hint of wobbly fat on
> them anywhere.
That's just a side-effect of the way your bodyfat is distributed. Most guys
do not get a whole lot of body fat on their legs, and even less on their arms,
especially forearms. For example, it's not unusual for guys (especially old
guys) to have popout veins on their forearms and yet still have a gut. Most
men tend to keep their body fat around their torso and to some degree their
> Yes, I know this. That's why I'm focusing on running (partly) - to burn
> lots of calories. I've lost about 10 lbs since I started again - the
> problem is:
> a.) My upper body strength is weak. I could run from an attacker, but
> if I was caught, I couldn't fight worth a damn. (And yes, I was
Do more running (-; Take martial arts or self-defense. Being able to bench
press a little bit more is not going to help you a whole lot.
> b.) Even if I lose more weight, my muscles under the skin right now are
> not toned.
"Toning" is bullshit. You will not find a physiology book that uses the term.
Having the appearance of "tone" is really just about having less body fat.
> c.) I've read that muscle burns more calories than fat, even when
Well that's true, because fat doesn't burn anything (except for the fact that
you have to lug it around and that you may waste some energy synthesising it
from different macronutrients)
It doesn't burn a whole lot. If you gain 5% weight for example, you do not
burn 5% more calories. Proportionately, your brain and kidneys are probably
the biggest energy hogs. Think more and go to the bathroom a lot (-;
> d.) I don't want to be able to just run fast but have anyone be able to
> kick sand in my face; I want overall strength too, even though I enjoy
> running more than other forms of exercise.
Take self-defense or similar.
> So, you're saying that if I gain muscle mass in my upper body, this
> would be at the expense of speed when I run?
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