Re: SFGAdv 2006: El Toro

"Andrew Brawley" wrote:

> I don't think El Toro knocks the wind out of The Voyage's sails at
> all. I don't see how anyone can honestly compare two rides that
> haven't even been built yet.

I was talking about stats. Yeah, we all know Paul dismisses stats, but HW
was really hyping the drop lengths and max drop-angle of the Voyage
woodie...and there comes El Toro and it trounces on those. That is where I
was making the comparison...from a steepest, longest drop on a woodie
marketing standpoint.


> I do, however find it amusing that HW is gearing up for three train
> operation while SFGAd is gearing up for two.

Voyage has a block brake and El Toro does not. It's simple, really. Sure,
the whole length thing will be a long point of contension among enthusiasts,
but the point being is that ET will deliver an intense ride from start to
finish ala Batman: The Ride, and Voyage will deliver a longer experience ala
TOGO's Bandit coaster.


> HW on the other hand is really getting a chance to stretch its legs.
> They have the land to let this thing go... a long way. They have a
> loyal following of diehard woodie fans that will flock to anything
> they build, and who appreciate a more traditional construction.

This is a side discussion, but I wonder how much longer the diehard woodie
fans will be flocking to HW now that Jeff Hammersly has left the park's
maintenance staff. He was THE GUY making The Raven and The Legend worth
their weight. With Jeff gone and the park left with an inexperienced
maintenance person to maintain track -- I wonder how long Voyage even be a
rideable coaster? Sad to say, I fear the worst for the park's other two
woodies as well. They were delivering truly outstanding performance under
Jeff's watch. Sadly, I personally think those days are gone.

-b


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