-Why- It Pays to Listen to the Radio in the Telephone Zone.

On Nov 18, 11:56 am, Telamon
<telamon_spamshi...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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Roadie <hjs...@xxxxxx> wrote:
On Nov 17, 5:33 pm, Telamon
<telamon_spamshi...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In article
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Roadie <hjs...@xxxxxx> wrote:
On Nov 17, 3:44 pm, Telamon
<telamon_spamshi...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In article <fhncf7$bh...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
mzen...@xxxxxxxxxx (Mark Zenier) wrote:

In article
<82e724fd-639c-4db8-ac2e-9c9c53e8e...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Roadie <hjs...@xxxxxx> wrote:
Oh, I agree that anyone who signs up for a loan should be held
responsible for paying it back, no matter what happens to the value
for the underlying collateral, be it a house, car, etc.

Horsepucky. A lot of those loans were criminal fraud on the part of
the broker. (Look up "Predatory Lending"). Indecipherable
contracts,
high pressure deadlines, "Solve all your debt problems", and so on
...
(Remember, a lot of these are not first mortgages, but debt
consolidation
or trying to cash in on home equity).

Hell, I even heard there was a hedge fund outfit that was lobbying to
not rescue anyone because their business plan was to buy up and flip
foreclosed houses.

I've had several categories of telemarketer be rude to me. Some were
obvious con men trying to get to my elderly parents, some were penny
stock floggers. And a whole bunch of mortgage lenders. So many that
I
had to get on the "do not call" list. All of these folks are
criminal
scum, (including the "Girls Gone Wild" salesfreaks, who kept calling
even after the "do not call" list publishing deadline). Anybody who
goes out of their way to harrass their prospective customers (however
unlikely) isn't legit.

I have found that the only way to get these mortgage industry scum to
stop calling is to waste their time on the phone. I've only had to play
along with them a few times for about 5 to 10 minutes then turn down
the
deal. No not give them any good information to their questions just
make
crap up as the call progresses. I used to have several calls every
evening like clockwork and it has finally stopped by doing this. Call
screening does not work. Telling them never to call back does not work.
Do not call lists don't work. Swearing at them does not work. Hanging
up
on them does not work. They just call you right back and continue to
call night after night after night.

Wasting their time works. Do continue with whatever you were doing at
the time of the pests call. Keep the radio playing, keep asking them to
repeat what they just said. Eat while they talk with you and just do
anything else rude you can think of while on the phone with the scum.
Just make up stuff about the value of your property and how much you
owe
on it. Keep them on the line for a while and then tell them their deal
is no good. This stops them. Nothing else I have tried works.

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Telamon
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You have a unique sense of pleasure and a lot of free time. A far
more effective way of controlling them is to use caller id and to hang
up. And to sign up for Do Not Call. Do not Call does not take care
of all of the telemarketers, but I estimate it cut mine by 80%. Sadly
it does not work on political calls.

I took no pleasure from doing this.

I did sign up for do not call and my number is unlisted and still they
call. Every time they would call I asked to be put on the do not call
list. All that did is to make sure they called back the next night.

I don't want caller ID. I told you I already screen my calls on the
answering machine.

I don't have a lot of free time.

You must if you spend lots of time talking to phone solicitors.

You have a reading comprehension problem. I only had to do this twice. I
already posted that it was a few times.

The phone I pay for is to communicate with people I want to talk to not
a sales tool for some scam artiste.

When the phone rings you do have a choice to make. You can choose to
talk or not talk to the individual on the other end of the line. It's
that simple. You choose to spend large amounts of time leading those
telephone solicitors on in the hopes of annoying them enough that they
will go away. The reality is that they are likely minimum wage people
in West Virginia or sub-U minimum wage people in India. The time you
spend drawing out the conversation with such people will have no
impact on the number of calls you get. None. The phone solicitors on
the phone have no decision or input into which phone number is next
up.

Look moron. It worked. Nothing else I tried worked. I tried being nice,
nasty or just hang up on them but still they called. I don't know where
they got my unlisted number but they just were not going to take no for
an answer. You should understand that. You don't get it either.

I don't give a dam who they are or where they live.

I pick up the phone to talk to people I know. Friends, family, people
from work etc. not phone solicitors. Apparently I had two boiler rooms
that just would not take no for an answer and would call back day after
day. Fortunately, most call once and take me off their list when I ask
them but some just won't play nice. Wasting their time worked.

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Telamon
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Telamon,

Try this Telephone Answering Machine Message :

Hello - One Monent Please.
Thank You For Holding . . . {Long Pause}
Your Phone Call Will Be Answered In The Order Received.
The Approximate Waiting Time is 10 Minutes.
-End-of-Message- beep, Beep. BEEP !

Makes the Telemarketers 'think' that they have dialed
a Business' Voice Mail System -and- Your Telephone
Number Will Removed A-S-A-P.

How I Spent My Life "On-Hold" -by- RHF
-Why- It Pays to Listen to the Radio in the Telephone Zone.


waiting, Waiting. WAITING ! ~ RHF
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