Re: (OT) : Weak "HD" FM Radio Signals - The Blinking Blue Light Report
- From: RHF <rhf-newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 11:26:55 -0700
On Sep 27, 11:04 am, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sep 24, 10:46 am, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sep 19, 9:44 am, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sep 4, 3:02 pm, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
(OT) : Weak "HD" FM Radio Signals - TheBlinkingBlueLightReport
Yes "HD" FM Radio does not deliever a good strong
signal beyond the 54-60 dBu Contour an many areas
with-in it too.
Oops IBOC Crock - I am Agreeing with you. ;-{
- Unfortunately, the industry is now finding out this is
- not the case, that the HD coverage is considerably
- less, something like 60% of the analog coverage
In time when the Digital "HD" Signal goes from
1% to 4% of the Analog ERP : "HD" FM Radio
in the FM Band will have as Good of coverage
as the Analog 'Stereo' signal does now.
- - - IMHO 8% would be better.
What I Hear on the FM Band with the Kitchen
"Family" Radio in Twain Harte, CA. :
Radi-osophy HD100 Radiohttp://www.radiosophy.com/index.html
{The Kitchen "Family" Radio}
I can get great Analog FM Radio Stereo signals from
33 FM Radio Stations in the California Central Valley
and beyond; out of 41 FM Radio Stations received here.
Note - This is the Count between 88 MHz and 98 Mhz
with a possible 50 FM Radio Channels.
One of these is KQED-FM on 88.5 MHz coming all the
way from Mount San Bruno south of San Franciso with
a very good FM Stereo signal and on an occasionalBlinkingBlueLight{indicating an IBOC "HD" Signal}.http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/fmq?list=0&facid=35501
Distance to me about 120 Miles.
The only FM "HD" Radio signal that I get a SolidBlueLightOn {HD Signal Lock} is a KOSO 93.1 MHz and
it has a HD-2 Co-Channel KOSO is listed as being
located in Patterson, CA with the Transmitter up in
the Hills west of townhttp://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/fmq?list=0&facid=35426
Distance to me about 60 Miles.
Note - Again these statements only related to the
FM Radio Station Channels between 88 and 98 Mhz.
all i see is theblinkingbluelight~ RHF
{ life beyond the 10mv/m contour }
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Again this Morning at 7:05 AM PDT I saw theBlinkingBlueLightwhile Listening to KQED FM :
* KQED-FM on 88.5 MHz coming all the
way from Mount San Bruno south of San Franciso with
a very good FM Stereo signal and on an occasionalBlinkingBlueLight{indicating an IBOC "HD" Signal}.http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/fmq?list=0&facid=35501
Distance to me about 120 Miles.
I Ask Myself : What IBOC ?
All I See Is TheBlinkingBlueLight! ~ RHF
In the Distant Land Where IBOC Fears To Go :
Life Exists and Radio Listeners Live Beyond the 60dBu Contour.
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FWIW - Did another AM/MW Radio Station
Blinking Blue Light Test this Morning at 7 AM
and Yes There Be "HD" Radio Signals Out-There . . .
18 Blinky Blue Light AM/MW Radio Stations
- - - I could NOT get a Solid Lock on any of them.
Plus now I am Hearing what David described as
"Motorboating" on many of the "HD" Stations.
47 Hear-able AM/MW Radio Stations
21 Listen-able AM/MW Radio Stations
on the Radi-Osophy HD-100 Radio.
- - - Low Cost Consumer Grade "HD" Radio.
-But- by 10 AM the Number of Listen-able
AM/MW Radio Stations was down to 'Only' 8
and the 21 Hear-able 'Only' Stations all had
Heavy Noise Levels which rendered them
Non-Listen-able. The Blinking Blue Light
Station count dropped down to 'only' 3.
I Ask Myself : What IBOC ?
All I See Is The Blinking Blue Light ! ~ RHF
In the Distant Land Where IBOC Fears To Go :
Life Exists and Radio Listeners Live Beyond the 10mv/m Contour.
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MORE IMPORTANTLY - WHERE I USED TO HEAR 27
LISTENABLE AM/MW RADIO STATIONS {PRE-IBOC]
HERE IN TWAIN HARTE, CA : NOW I CAN LISTEN TO
NINE (9) WITH OUT HEARING SOME LEVEL OF IBOC
DIGITAL HASH THAT MAKES LISTENING TO THEM
NOT ENJOYABLE. HERE IS A SIDE-BY-SIDE USING
THE GE SUPERADIO III AND RADI-OSOPHY HD-100 RADIOS
[ 26 SEPT 2007 AT 2:00 TO 2:45 PM ]
KSFO - 560 - HASH - - - - - - HEAR AUDIO
KMJ - - 580 - HASH - - - - - - NO AUDIO *
KEAR - 610 - - - - - - - BBL - HEAR AUDIO
KSTE - 650 - HASH - - - - - - BUT LISTENABLE
KNBR - 680 - - - - - - - - - - - - LISTENABLE
KFIA - - 710 - HASH - - - - - - HEAR AUDIO
KCBS - 740 - HASH - - - - - - BUT LISTENABLE
KCBC - 770 - HASH - BBL - HEAR AUDIO
KGO - - 810 - HASH - BBL - HEAR AUDIO **
KMPH - 840 - - - - - - - - - - - - LISTENABLE
KVIN - - 920 - HASH - - - - - - HEAR AUDIO
KESP - 970 - HASH - BBL - - LISTENABLE
KCTC - 1050 - HASH - - - - - - HEAR AUDIO
KFAX - 1100 - HASH - - - - - - HEAR AUDIO ***
KHTK - 1140 - - - - - - - BBL -- LISTENABLE
KWG -- 1230 - HASH - - - - - - HEAR AUDIO
KOIT - - 1260 - HASH - - - - - - HEAR AUDIO
KUYL - 1280 - HASH - BBL -- HEAR AUDIO
KCTC - 1320 - HASH - - - - - - HEAR AUDIO
KFIV -- 1360 - HASH - BBL - - LISTENABLE
KTKZ -- 1380 - HASH - - - - - - HEAR AUDIO
KVML - 1450 - - - - - - - - - - - - LISTENABLE
KYOS - 1480 - HASH - - - - - - HEAR AUDIO
KFBK -- 1530 - HASH - BBL - BARELY LISTENABLE ****
KWG -- 1560 - HASH - - - - - - HEAR AUDIO
KLIV -- 1590 - HASH - - - - - - HEAR AUDIO
KTIQ -- 1660 - - - - - - - - - - - - LISTENABLE
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HASH - DIGITAL SIGNAL HASH FROM ADJACENT
CHANNEL IBOC BROADCASTERS.
.
BBL = BLINKING BLUE LIGHT IBOC DIGITAL SIGNAL
-BUT- NO SIGNAL LOCK.
* USED TO HEAR KMJ ON 580 "A-OK"
** USED TO HEAR KGO ON 810 "A-OK"
*** USED TO HEAR KFAX 1100 "A-OK"
**** USED TO HEAR KFBK ON 1530 "A-OK"
.
GE SUPERADIO III USING IT'S FERRITE ROD ANTENNA
.
RADI-OSOPHY HD-100 RADIO USING A 6 BY 18 FOOT
SINGLE TURN (1) LOOP ANTENNA {48" LONG} WITH
COAX CABLE FEED-IN-LINE.
.
CLEARLY "IF" IBOC WAS AT 4~8% I WOULD BE HEARING
SEVERAL AM/MW "HD" RADIO STATIONS THAT I ONLY
GET A BLINKING BLUE LIGHT.
MY BOTTOM LINE - WITH IBOC IS TURN-IT-OFF -OR-
TURN-IT-UP THE DIGITAL POWER LEVEL SO THAT IT
CAN BE HEARD OUT TO AND BEYOND THE 10 MV/M
CONTOUR.
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FWIW - I still have to take the Radi-Osophy HD-100 Radio
down to Oakland, CA and give it a try in the SF Bay Area.
To hear what "HD" Radio sounds like in a Major Metro Area
within and Urban Environment -and- the Results of IBOC
Digital Hash on any 'distant' AM/MW Radio Listening.
i b oc'd ~ RHF
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"The Blinking Blue Light Report" for 27 Sept 2007
Early Morning {5 AM} Turned on the Radi-Osophy HD-100 Radio
and this is what I heard and did not hear :
KMJ 580 - Fresno, CA Good Audio and BBL ~100 Miles
KTNN 660 - Window Rock, AZ - Excellent Audio ~800 Miles
KDON 720 - Las Vegas, NV ~400 Miles
KKOH 780 - Reno, NV and BBL ~150 Miles
KGO 810 - SFBA and BBL ~120 Miles
KOA 850 - Denver, CO and BBL ~1000 Miles
KTRB 860 - SFBA and BBL ~120 Miles
KQKE 960 - SFBA and BBL ~120 Miles
KFWB 980 - Los Angeles, CA and BBL ~350 Miles
KOMO 1000 - Seattle, WA - Weak Audio with Bad IBOC Noise ~800 Miles
KNX 1070 - Los Angeles, CA and BBL ~350 Miles
KSOC 1080 - Santa Cruz, CA ~120 Miles
XEPRS 1090 - Tijuana, BN Excellent Audio ~750 Miles
KFAX 1100 - SFBA and BBL ~120 Miles
KSL 1160 - Salt Lake City and BBL ~600 Miles
KCTC 1320 - SACTO, CA Excellent Audio ~80 Miles
KJAY 1430 - SACTO, CA and BBL ~80 Miles
KVON 1440 - Napa, CA Excellent Audio and BBL ~120 Miles
KVML 1450 - {Local} Sonora, CA
1530 KFBK - SAC, CA and BBL ~80 Miles
KNZR 1560 - Bakersfield, CA and BBL ~200 Miles
XEKTT 1700 - Tijuana, BN Excellent Audio and ? BBL ? ~750 Miles
Clearly the IBOC Digital Signal ; or at least part of it ;
{I Get a Blinking Blue Light} is getting here from Great Distances :
Fresno, CA ~100 Miles
Reno, NV ~150 Miles
SF Bay Area ~120 Miles
Denver, CO ~1000 Miles
Los Angeles, CA ~350 Miles
Santa Cruz, CA ~120 Miles
Salt Lake City ~600 Miles
SACTO, CA ~80 Miles
Napa, CA ~120 Miles
Bakersfield, CA ~200 Miles
? Tijuana, BCN {Mexico} ~750 Miles
Sad Note - KOMO used to be a very nice Listen at Night
and Early Mornings and now due to IBOC Digital Noise
has Weak Audio buried in the Digital Hash.
? Note - I am getting a BBL fro XEKTT 1700 in Tijuana ?
SAD RESULTS - STILL NO IBOC SIGNAL LOCK :
I HAVE YET TO HEAR AN AM/MW "HD" RADIO BROADCAST.
Once Again I Ask Myself : What IBOC ?
All I See Is The Blinking Blue Light ! ~ RHF
In That Distant Land* Where IBOC Fears To Go :
Life Exists and Radio Listeners Live Beyond the 10mv/m Contour.
* Twain Harte, CA -USA-
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