Re: Laying Waste to Frank Of Silliland's Silliness


hot-ham-and-cheese@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> Dave Heil wrote:
> > hot-ham-and-cheese@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > > Dave Heil wrote:
> > >>hot-ham-and-cheese@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > >>>hot-ham-and-cheese@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > >>>>Dave Heil wrote:
> > >>>>>hot-ham-and-cheese@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > >>>>>>Dave Heil wrote:
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> > >>Why no, Brian, I've never tired of being an A-1 Op. Do you tire of
> > >>being one?
> > >
> > > I have no certificate from Hiram, suitable for framing. But I do take
> > > pride in my station, my signal, and my operating abilities.
> >
> > That is admirable.
>
> More than that, it's highly recommended.
>
> > > And if I
> > > were aware that French hams were out of band, I wouldn't be completing
> > > circuits for them nor sending them QSL cards.
> >
> > It is your right to do so.
>
> Actually, I consider it an obligation.
>
> > You may research the band allocations for
> > each and every DX station you hear, before you actually call them or
> > respond to them.
>
> Why should I do that? The case in point, your case, was one of French
> amateur working completely outside the French Amateur Authorizations by
> several *hundred* kilohertz.
>
> But as a matter of record, I have suggested to you several years ago
> that you learn the authorizations of the DX countries that you need, so
> you'll at least know where to NOT look for them.
>
> > It will assuredly cut down on the number of contacts
> > your make, especially in a contest or pileup situation.
>
> Hi! An out of band contest!!! You crack me up. Not even CQ Magazine
> would go for that one!
>
> > You should also
> > bear in mind that nothing in the regulations under which you operate,
> > mandates that you do so.
>
> Many things are not in the regulations. None-the-less, you should
> abide by "Good Amateur Practice." Riley says it's enforceable, and
> you're back in America now.
>
> You are responsible for making sure that your
> > own signal is where it is supposed to be.
>
> Indeed I am. But that completely misses the case in point, your case.

Dave is good at evading the point and talking about everything in sight
and beyond but the point at hand
>
> If any station I've ever
> > worked was where he was not supposed to be, he'd likely not be able to
> > show off a treasured QSL from a rare station which read the exact
> > frequency of operation (i.e. 50.115 MHz).
>
> Fair enough. But many DXers merely put down the band. But you're not
> many DXers. You have trouble enough being just one.
>
> > Additionally, you can check on the web or by using a callsign database,
> > to be certain that each domestic station you might contact is where he
> > or she is supposed to be under the terms of his or her license.
>
> Again you evade the case in point. Your case. You didn't just work
> hams outside their license class, you were working hams that were
> hundreds of kilohertz outside their countries 6M authorization.
>
> > Finally, there is nothing in the regs which makes you responsible for my
> > station operation either here in the United States, in Tanzania or in
> > any other country.
>
> If I know that you are operating out of band, you can rest assured that
> I won't complete the circuit, and you won't be getting one of my QSL
> cards.
>
> > I hope that clears things up for you.
> >
> > Dave K8MN
>
> I'm convinced more than ever that given the opportunity to work yet
> more out of band Frenchmen, you'd go for it again.

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