Re: eBay Purple Smoke Dye



On Oct 19, 5:33 pm, jasper <fl_...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Cracker writes,





Yes, I am the owner of Underground Gadgets. I have spoken with you now
on many occasions about this Dye Pigment. I myself, using no scale to
measure ingredients, have had no problems when using Nitrocellulose as
a binder to form a Smoke Pellet. The composition burned cool, with no
flame after adding Sodium Bicarbonate. Again the exact color I
achieved is pictured as we speak, on Ebay.

Perhaps you should just ask for a refund if you are having problems,
rather than posting that I am not helping you. I have tried to explain
the process to you, almost to the point of just simply doing it
myself. I did not appreciate your comment by email that I simulated
this picture by blowing the pigment with compressed air. Sir, that is
quite simply ridiculous and untrue. Try mixing with a binder, and pay
close attention, your mixture is burning to hot.

As I have stated I don't even use a scale, and quite simply am able
to achieve the results pictured. I would be quite glad to forward our
emails to anyone doubting how hard I've tried to help you sir.

Thank You

Cracker @ Underground Gadgets

Fountain Man replies,

The use of no scale is simply to show you how easily a color can be
achieved, and you say I dont know what the @#$%@#@ Im doing. The most
interesting thing about this is not once have you asked me for a
refund. But you will not have to, the money has already been returned
to your account, short the shipping. Tomarrow when you see purple
smoke, I will be interested to see what you have to say then. If I
had the time I would demonstrate on U tube for you. But with your
experience it should be quite simple

I've been knowing cracker for a while now, from another forum. From my
experience, I don't see him as being a "fraud".

I'm rather vexed at the "using no scale to measure" statement,
however. Cracker, you know as well as anybody that pyro measurements
are damn near always by weight.

Consider just going back and recording the weights as you make a
correct-performing batch and I should think everyone will be
satisfied.

Just my two cents worth...

Jasper- Hide quoted text -

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Well, It seems a shame to me that I have continued to waste Rec.
Pyro's time and my own on something as silly as this. I certainly
appreciate the input, Jasper, but again I was simply trying to
demonstrate, just how simply this can be done.

Here aredirect words from you Fountain Man

"I am doing as you
suggested, binding with NC lacquor. 50% Dye, 25% KCLO3, 15% Lactose,
the
rest Sodium Bicarbonate and bound with Nitrocellulose lacquor."


The batch has been prepared and should be dry by morning & I will post
the
results.


Fountain Man you posted this on your third post, so let me get this
straight here.
You have gone through all this and you haven't even tried the
suggestion that I have asked you to try. LOL :)

I have taken my morning to take pictures of me actually lighting the
Nitocellulose binded pieces and the smoke that is clearly coming from
them. I have emailed you the pictures and I will gladly do the same
for anyone else that has read this topic, please email me at the above
email.

Ammonium Chloride produces white smoke, so of course it would be
light pink, after red color being added. LOL :)

Before you waste rec.pyro's time on something like this again, at
least try the process all the way through, by actually making, drying
and lighting the product before you say it won't work.

And Sir, I have told you that you will get every dime of your money
back, after you send the 2 pounds of dye back to me. Is my return
policy any different from any other Pyro Supply? Again I am
embarressed that I have participated in such an amateur argument, This
is sooo my last post on this subject.

Have a good day Sir,

Cracker @ Underground Gadgets


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