Re: SCWC 32: Discussion: IMPLEMENT

Peter T. Daniels:

On Jun 7, 5:09 pm, Steve Ball <ste...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Adrian Bailey:





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Flying Tortoise:

On Jun 7, 12:12 am, "Adrian Bailey" <d...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 22:10:36 -0000, Flying Tortoise
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I'm in! I'm almost enough to bring it off. (9)

Sorry Adrian. I'm probably being incredibly dense but I need an
explanation for this one.

I'm guessing the indication is "ME" in "I'M PLENT(Y)".

Then I'm afraid I'm going to have to raise the same objection with
which I've had my own knuckles rapped by a professional crossword
editor, namely that if "I" is used in word play "I am" is not
acceptable as an instruction for what to do with the "I" (or ME in
this case). What you're actually saying is not I am in but I *is* in.
Therefore "I am in", or "I am sent to the end of" and the like can
only be used to put IM or IAM in play. "I can be seen in", "I'll be at
the end of" or similar is required to put I or ME in.

I disagree.

But with no argument for your point of view? Here's how I see it:
in the cryptic reading "I" is to be read as "the letter 'i'" and the rest of
the grammar should work with this substitution. "The letter 'i' am..." is
clearly ungrammatical and requires "...is...", which doesn't work in the
surface. As Flying Tortoise points out, you can get around the problem with
something like "I will be" which also works as "the letter 'i' will be...".

I agree that it's what's required to put 'I' in something. However, 'I'
does
not equal 'me'. They're nowhere interchangeable.

I disagree.

Thank you for sharing again, but can you can give us an example where 'I'
and 'me' _are_ interchangeable?

Not me! Not I!

In any circumstance I can think off, one of these is wrong. In what
circumstance are both correct.

Is it I, Lord? Is it me?

Ditto.

Steve = : ^ )

.

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