Re: There is no market for real cameras anymore.

Gordon Moat wrote:
> Scott W wrote:
> > Gordon Moat wrote:
> > > . . . . or go even further and use large format on a tripod. Some of
> > the
> >
> >>newer large format gear is not as heavy as some medium format gear. Of
> >>course it is much slower to use, but tripod shooting is rarely about
> >>quickness.
> >>
> >
> >
> > I have my own way that works for me, this is a greatly down sampled
> > version of a photo I took not long ago.
> > http://www.pbase.com/konascott/image/54403074/original
> >
> > The full size image is 159 MP and takes up 908 MB on my computer.
> >
> > A 100% crop can be seen here.
> > http://www.pbase.com/konascott/image/54403109/original
> >
> > The photo is made up by stitching a large number of photos together,
> > for me this is easier then shooting LF and scanning it.
> >
>
>
> If you are just going after resolution, then it seems a good choice. The
> composition is okay, probably the long panorama format makes it more
> interesting.
>
> I have seen a sliding rail set-up for multiple shot panoramic images.
> The idea was to move the camera sideways, instead of pivoting on one
> point, so that the viewpoint would seem more natural. A spherical
> panorama multiple shot set-up is more common, but the lens is viewing
> each area from a single point. Anyway, something you might want to try
> to compare, especially with a very wide panorama.
Sliding rail systems are very limited as they suffer from parallax.
The photos from them to me look a bit odd since there is not one
viewing point, very hard to get stuff in the foreground using them.
>
> > I have a lot of respect for people who shoot LF and gave some thought
> > about going that route as well. But I find I get more flexibility
> > doing it my way, I can go wider angle if I choose for instance. And in
> > fact the photo of the crater is has a horizontal fov of around 160
> > degrees.
> >
>
>
> Almost seems like a fisheye view, rather than a natural perspective.
> What does the crater look like on a single shot?
What you call natural perspective is also known as rectilinear, which
is what a normal camera lens tries to be. There are limits as to the
field of view you can get with a rectilinear lens, on a 35mm camera
going much shorter then 16mm and things start to look very odd. I
remapped the photo was a rectilinear 16 mm lens to get this.
http://www.pbase.com/konascott/image/54817182/original
Whereas this would be a tricky shoot with a 4 x 5 camera it is one that
could be done, using a 56mm lens, which is pretty short for a 4 x 5
camera.

The reason I posted the other photo was to show what can't be don't
with a LF camera, capture the whole of the crater in one photo.
Stitching allows me to choose how I want to map the photo, which is
pretty useful at times.


> > I do know the value of large film from first hand experience. I use to
> > take a lot of photos through my microscope and I started out using a
> > 35mm camera and tri-x film. I was never very happy with the results
> > that I got as I could see a lot more detail in the microscope then the
> > photos where picking up. I had a Polaroid film back that fit my
> > microscope, I would cut 4 x 5 sheet film down to size and put it in an
> > empty Polaroid film case. The difference was amazing.
> >
> > Scott
> >
>
>
> After reading about a few too many big name photographers shooting large
> format, and those being guys who are getting paid enough to afford some
> really expensive digital backs, I have decided to renew my large format
> gear. Of course, I have an advantage over you with two really good pro
> labs available to me. Unlike Olaf Veltman, I will be sticking to 4x5
> gear . . . 8x10 gear really is too much for what I will be doing for work.
>
I think 4 x 5 is great, any more there is really little to be gained by
going to 8 x 10. 8 x 10 is great if you don't want to mess with an
enlarger and just want to make contact prints but today scanning 4 x 5
is a much better way to go. Not many lenses make full use of the film
area of 4 x 5 so there would be little to be gain in going to 8 x 10, a
bit smoother looking photo perhaps but a good 4 x 5 already looks
pretty good.

Scott

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