Re: Setting moon



On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 15:03:18 +0530, "mianileng" <mianileng@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:


"rwalker" <rwalker@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 22:01:45 +0530, "mianileng"
<mianileng@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

A few days ago, when I was getting ready for bed around 4:00 am, I
happened
to glance out the window and noticed the color of the setting moon. I
grabbed my camera but was too tired and sleepy to set up a tripod or try
out
various manual exposure settings. So I shot handheld with spot-metering
at -1 EV.

I lost the EXIF data while cropping and making slight adjustments to
contrast and brightness in bitmap with Irfanview (no noise reduction).
Here
they are:

Pana FZ30
Spot focus, Spot metering (-1EV)
ISO80
f/4.0, 1/80sec
420mm equiv.

Shooting handheld half-asleep at 1/80 sec at 420mm, in low light with a
noisy P&S through thick hazy atmosphere close to the horizon is a recipe
for
disaster, and the result is no better than could be expected. But at least
the hue was captured quite faithfully. Just wanted to share:
http://tinyurl.com/59e2jq


All things considered, that's a pretty nice shot.

Thanks.


I agree with that it's a nice shot and shows the subtle shading and coloration
of the moon near the horizon. Something that is difficult to do properly in
editing with any degree of credibility (try it sometime, it's not as easy as
others claim). I too am an available-light fanatic, and trying to capture
in-camera the final results without further editing.

However, having said all that, you have to admit that images of the moon alone
leave much to be desired as an image worth of framing. If you want
high-resolution you can always download any number of images of the moon. The
moon has been seen by everyone long before recorded history. Even your primate
ancestors marveled at the sight of the moon to some degree. Therefore, it being
such a common object, known by all, you have to take efforts to present it in a
way that's not been seen before. (I know that wasn't your goal here, I'm only
posing these comment for future reference in your pursuit of becoming a better
photographer.)

As once explained to me, and a concept with which I wholly agree, "The purpose
of the artist is to take the mundane (the moon for example) and present it in a
way that will make people think or feel in new ways."

(Aside: this is why Ansel Adams fails as an artist, by any stretch of the
imagination. All he tried to do was not ruin an already interesting subject. The
sum-total of his works being no more than a snapshot that even a 3 year-old
could have taken with a Brownie Box camera if they were in the same place at the
same time. That's not artistic-talent, I assure you.)

While the following image is by no means something that I feel would be worthy
of printing for sale (standard stock-photography fare, make no mistake about
that), it gives you an idea of how to present a moon photo in a different
manner. This is a moon-set taken in an expansive remote area devoted to
non-motorized travelers (now considered one of this century's "Wonders of the
World"):

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3148/3036916580_30ef4b00b2_o.jpg

The most difficult part when including a moon in a scene, to convey a mood, is
trying to not make it look like a sunset or sunrise. It's a careful balancing
act of light and hue. If printed properly this photo would convey "moon", but
due to everyone's own individual monitor adjustments, they might mistakenly
first think "sunset". However, sunlight, with the sun as high as the moon is in
this image, could not allow for the overall exposure of the silhouetted subjects
in this photo, if they really thought about it or had any experience with such
scenes in real life. Nor, as in the original high-resolution image reveals, all
the stars in the sky. Invisible in this downsized/compressed image, except for
one brighter star that outlasted those editing manipulations.

Anyway, just some ideas to throw around in your head. The moon is common and
ordinary (to everyone on earth), try to present it in a way that nobody's ever
seen before, to make them feel and think new things, if you can. Artists have
been trying this for centuries, it's not as easy as most think at first.
.



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