Re: Help please filtering google groups

Paul Allen wrote:

On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 07:16:49 -0700, Miles wrote:

* Blinky the Shark wrote, On 3/21/2008 00:41:
JT's Ghost wrote:

In article <WHxEj.12389$FK1.11944@trndny08>,
"er" <nochance@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Still not getting it to work.

Tried filtering on Path, Message ID and Organization, culling google,
google.groups and groups.google.com. Spam is still here in full
force.

Wonder if my ISP might not be up to the filtering task. Could it be
that Verizon doesn't pull in all of that source information until I
actually actually open the message, downloading only the headers, all
of them??

Has to be a way to make this work.


Try "googlegroups.com," which is in the Message ID line.

Bingo. That's the real target, not gmail.


That doesn't work in Thunderbird using googlegroups.com from contains.
As you and others have previously written evidently TB cannot filter
based on "from," or if the subject matter is located anywhere within the
header such as in the message ID line.

So the only solution for TB users is to download another program which I
don't care to do. Since this is the only NG that is heavily hit with
spam, think I'll simply delete the group and worry about it another day.

It is truly sad that the monopoly platform is so deficient and hard to use
that some users are willing to give up functionality rather than try to
fix it.

It doesn't have to be that way.

Rec.photo.digital is the only newsgroup I read, and I'm not willing to
give it up just because a few anti-social jerks are polluting it with
spam. Fortunately, my OS provides me with more choices of newsreader than
I can count, and the Usenet Improvement Project has gone to the trouble of
sorting out the capabilities of various news readers. I switched from
Thunderbird to Claws Mail last year, but found Claws' filtering to be too
confusing to set up. So I switched to Pan just this week, setting up a
single filter to block "googlegroups" in the Message-ID header.

You got lucky with Claws. Last time I tried it (granted, it was
Sylpheed-Claws back then), it ran fine unless I tried to open a
folder/group. Then it locked up. :)

Pan is my primary client here on my primary system (Linux); for Windows it
would be Xnews. Note, though, that I use the last version of the old Pan
-- the one you have is a version of the new Pan, which is a total rewrite
in another language (C++, IIRC). I keep hearing (one of my main groups is
news.software.readers, which, BTW, I highly recommend, especially if
you're breaking in a new client) that all of the old, expected features
haven't yet made it into the new write.

It was like Dorothy stepping out of her crashed house into Oz and seeing
the world in TechniColor. More than 90% of what I see now is actually
related to photography. And all the tools I needed to make it happen
were already on my disk. Why anyone would use an OS that requires
third-party anti-virus software and lots of expensive add-ons or
downloads in order to be functional is beyond me.

OK, so wiping your disk and installing a real operating system is more
trouble than a simple download. But, how much trouble is it to be
victimized by the shortcomings of the monopoly OS? Lots of people have
chosen to be free of the "trouble" that is Windows. It's not hard. You
could do it too.

As for the ability to filter on Message-ID to block GG spam (and GG
knuckleheads in general), that's very easily done even with Windows news
clients; one just has to use one of the better ones (which avoids the
inconvenience of needing to run a local server/proxy to pre-chew one's
newsgroups for one of the lesser clients).


--
Blinky
Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project: http://improve-usenet.org
Blinky: http://blinkynet.net

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