Re: card reader

On 2008-01-12, nospam <nospam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In article <p6nn55-uqb.ln1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Chris Savage
<spam.goes.here@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

And the only current OS that I've ever used that positively discourages
any such ability is MacOS which abstracts everything into Apple's vision of
what a filesystem should look like, despite its underlying BSDness.

that's nonsense. you can browse the file system via command line,
graphical interface, or even smart folders based on metadata.

And that's nonsense, so there.

Far too many times I've wanted to save a file from a Mac to a directory
that I know exists but I couldn't because that directory didn't exist
according to the app's idea of my favourites. If there is a shortcut

you navigate to the desired folder wherever it is in the file
hierarchy.

How? That's the part that I could never work out and believe me I've
tried many, many times. Treat that as rhetorical because I haven't been
near a Mac for six months or so, could never afford to buy one and
wouldn't waste the money if I could.

showing the hierarchy, forward/back buttons, column view or list view
of the disk, and various starting folders on the left, such as desktop,
pictures, applications, etc. it's not really any different than any
other system.

It is different. Perhaps the problem I had was that the Macs I used were
in a locked-down college networked environment. But I do remember it
being impossible to persuade the machine to save files to a directory on
a USB drive without fiddling the favourites.

the 'favourites' is for folders you often use and those will differ for
every user. there's no need to have a folder included as a favourite
to save to it. plus, favourites isn't even in the save dialogue
(although i vaguely recall it there in early versions of os x).


Not my experience.

And I've got no idea what a smart folder is supposed to be.

a folder that's dynamically created, based on metadata, such as:

- all jpeg images smaller than 1 meg
- all images, regardless of format, that have 50mm in the exif data
- all jpegs created in 2006 that are bigger than 1 meg and at iso 100
- all pdf documents that contain the word "banana" in them
- all files that begin with the letter 'h' in a particular folder

think of it as doing a file search on various parameters, but those
parameters are saved, and the results of the search are updated
dynamically.

And that just happens, automatically, on an out-of-the-box Mac? I've
never seen it.

Congratulations for not reading everything I wrote here and elsewhere.
What you can do and what the UI encourages you to do are not the same
thing. For instance most Mac users I know have no idea what a command line is,

so what? most windows users don't care about command line interfaces
either.

Which is exactly what I said. Ever thought of learning to read.


never mind that they have access to one or how to get it. Whenever I
have to use a Mac I instinctively want the command line because the
point-and-drool gets in the way and it always takes ridiculous amounts
of time to remember how to get to the damn thing because,
out-of-the-box, the I-know-better-than-you Mac UI hides all the useful
stuff it can do.

in other words, you are used to something else and not interested in
learning how to use the gui or how to find the command line.

OK if you're so determined to make an argument out of a simple
discussion there's no point trying to have any kind of conversation with you.
You may have the last word, but try not to put any more words in my
mouth.

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