Re: Long zoom EVFs

On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 13:42:08 +1100, dj_nme <dj_nme@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Kinon O'Cann wrote:

"flambe" <fac187@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Is there any real information on the next generation of these cameras?
The current crop does everything except take decent pictures.
For example the Panaleicasonic FZ18 has incredible specs.
Unfortunately the images it creates have incredible noise even at the
lowest ISO setting. I came close to buying one but it would drive me
crazy.
I guess the real question is whther or not noise problems inherent to
the small sensors used in those cameras can ever be tamed.
It would be nice not to have to lug a massive dSLR and lens around:
the Nikon 18-200VR on a D80 is a real pain in the neck. Nice pictures
though!

Don't compare any EVF small sensor camera to a large sensor SLR; you'll
be disappointed. However, the utility of the EVF cameras is undeniable.
I have an FZ50 to compliment my 5D, and it's a wonderful camera. Noise
is higher than the 5D, of course, but it is capable of producing
excellent images. Likewise the FZ18. Shoot within the limits of the
machine, and you can produce excellent images.

Does it make much difference to apparent noise if you set the resolution
of the camera below it's native resolution?
My guess would be that it would make the images look smoother of it was
set to downsample to 8pm or 6mp rather than recording in the native 10mp
of the sensor.
I din't know and haven't tried it.

As far as the next generation goes, who knows? Maybe the manufacturers
will abandon the high end and concentrate on the low end, and cameras
like the TZ-3. It all comes down to money.

Maybe the system that Canon uses on it's DSLR cameras of in-sensor noise
reduction could be applied to small-sensor digicams (EVF cams included).
The future is a strange country, so who knows what features the new
cameras will have?

Wrong thinking. It has since been found out (and proved countless times now)
that Canon actually introduces more noise on their P&S cameras when their Noise
Reduction is turned ON than when it is turned OFF. People who use that CHDK
addon have discovered this and now leave noise-reduction turned off permanently.
One of the options in CHDK's menus on the camera.

It's just a marketing ploy to get you to buy into Canon's more exorbitantly
overpriced DSLR gear. All these holier-than-thou people who insist a DSLR is
better have been duped into thinking their cameras can provide less noise in
their images by a simple firmware trick in the cameras. Fooled again! They walk
right into it every time.

They have to have something to justify the cost somehow.



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