Re: Gimp vs Photoshop

On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 13:12:21 -0700, acl <achilleaslazarides@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Aug 29, 9:23 pm, Lyle Deaming <notha...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 07:11:15 -0700, acl <achilleaslazari...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Aug 29, 4:51 am, "Roger N. Clark (change username to rnclark)"
<usern...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

It isn't hard to figure out who has credibility in the
newsgroup by watching posts for a while. Unfortunately,
many very helpful people have left (the regulars can
probably name a few).

Actually it is quite hard, you just don't realise it because you
already know who knows what they're talking about and who doesn't. If
you just watch posts and reactions to them, without actually knowing
which are right and which not, you'll reach incorrect conclusions a
lot of the time.

The group is indeed getting worse, unfortunately, even in the last
couple of years that I read it. But I really don't think it's the spam
and trolls that are driving good people away.

What makes it even more difficult are those that think they've always had
credibility when they really haven't had any credibility for the longest time.
When their minds and methods are stilled mired in last-century thinking and
refuse to budge from that spot. The rest of the world marches on into newer and
greater things. Leaving them in their past. Then they wonder why they lost
credibility, thinking it must be everyone else's fault. It's a shame when a
handful of "old and moldy" in a newsgroup think that they can dictate what's
right for everyone because it partly worked for them a few times in the distant
past. But they get like that. It's all they have left in their lives. That's
when they become pitiable, of their own making.


Greetings, sock puppet!

I have three observations and a suggestion. First, from the way you
write and the knowledge that you display, you're a fairly smart guy
(ok I'm guessing the "guy" part). Second, you're a troll (I have no
problem with that!). Third, your trolling isn't very imaginative. eg
your attacks on Roger are getting repetitive, and your putdowns pretty
unimaginative. I mean, how many times have you said the same things
about him? OK maybe you'll piss him off once or twice, but it's
boring, and anyway the things you say are obviously not true, so it
doesn't really work (you don't have to accuse people of true things,
just things that could be true; even better if you do it indirectly,
or manage to make people autosuggest it, if you see what I mean).

So here's a suggestion: why don't you put some more effort into making
your trolling more, let us say, artful? I could suggest some semi-
trolls who frequent this group as examples of witty trolling, but they
probably won't be happy (I can tell you who you should avoid
emulating, though: RichA; and you're starting to sound like him,
although your trolling is slightly more refined, of course). I think
this will make it more pleasant for everybody, eh?

Cheers!

Unfortunately, anything you might want to add as your usual trolling red-herring
comments for attention doesn't change the fact that was said above your rant is
100% true.

I see how many followers your beloved Roger has. Out of some several hundred
thousand people that read this newsgroup regularly, 3 replied how helpful he is
to anyone That's not good odds, and it only reinforces what the rest of us
already think and know about him. Time for your little band of resident trolls
to reign in your egos. Your input and presence here is really not needed by
anyone. Anywhere. Except for those pitiful 3 that can't think and reason for
themselves.

.

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