Re: NYC MAY SEEK PERMIT FOR PUBLIC PHOTOGRAPHY

Just D wrote:
"Savageduck"
This idea in NYC (or the USA) of all places is reactionary, unconstitutional and downright stupid for a city flooded with amateur and tourist photographers. The pro film makers or photographer are just that and part of their professional preparation for a shoot should be to check on local permit requirements wherever they are working.

Just wondering... How pro and amateurs should be distinguished? By their cameras? By their IDs? Well, try to ask me to show my Picture ID when I'm shooting. :) And especially invent the reason why you're doing that. And finally will you find any reference to the "press" on my driver license? Anybody can have a very good expensive camera. I shoot for my family, never for press, and my archive is large. And I can recall how I scared the security of Arizona Mills in Tempe, AZ about 3 years ago when I was using Canon GL2 filming my son throwing cents to the crocodile, that's a very popular attraction ther. These "security" idiots told me that I can't use my camcorder inside the Mall. But why? I've never seen any restrictions, warning on the walls, etc. And as my friend said me once, if you don't see any warning about private property, camera restrictions, etc. you can do whatever you want. I was shooting in the Winchester house in CA several years ago and it was absolutely normal.

Just D.


Agreed.
Just because somebody is carrying a Canon or Nikon DSLR with fat glass and is using a tripod or mono-pod there is no way Law enforcement can determine amateur or pro status.

In the same way given the melting pot nature of our nation making snap judgments based on physical appearance or ethnicity is tempting for some xenophobes, but not a valid test of patriotism or citizenship.

Big production units can be conspicuous and disruptive in a major city and there is usually a liaison between producer and city, as well as a permit process. The same would apply for obvious photo shoots for outdoors fashion or advertising.

Guerrilla photo artists like Spencer Turnick, given their subject matter are not likely to give authorities notice of any impending shoot.

So, if there are no private, State or Federal property notifications or postings restricting photography for privacy or security reasons, Law enforcement, municipalities and rent-a-cops should restrain themselves from trying to save us from ourselves.

'duck
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