Re: Computer
- From: C J Campbell <christophercampbell@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:27:56 -0700
On 2007-03-15 16:58:16 -0700, "J. F. Cornwall" <JCornwall@xxxxxxx> said:
Ron Hunter wrote:
C J Campbell wrote:
On 2007-03-14 16:06:22 -0700, "J. F. Cornwall" <JCornwall@xxxxxxx> said:I use animated mouse pointers, as they make it easier to locate the things on the screen. Merely a matter of personal preference. I also like the XP type display, but understand how some people may not like it. I rather suspect that some would still be using the old DOS and command lines, if it were convenient. I find businesses using old DOS programs in a DOS box, on WinXP Pro. sigh. Luddites never die!
Pat O'Connell wrote:
C J Campbell wrote:
On 2007-03-13 17:57:01 -0700, Paul J Gans <gans@xxxxxxxxx> said:
C J Campbell <christophercampbellnospam@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Anyway, I use Macs because they seem to me to be more trouble free and they
are prettier. I cannot speak for others.
Does the fact that the base operating system is
unix make any difference?
;-)
Hey, I'm not that old!
Yeah, the beard and sandals crowd love to get into Terminal and work
with arcane command lines. All the Unix commands are there.
I don't care about the base operating system. I care about the interface. I like the Mac interface better than the Windows interface.
I like the interface to be simple, and to get out of the way _now_ when I'm not using it. I like the Win2k style UI (but not the XP or Aero "flashy" interfaces), the old Mac interface (not OSX), and Unix Motif and similar UIs for Linux. I don't like animations on mouse pointers, menus and windows that slowly display and hide (Aero/OSX/WinXP if you don't disable that crap), and things like semi-transparent windows which act like a bug, not a feature. I do use the command line on Windows and Unix, Linux and BSD (aka OSX) but am not tied to it.
A-frickin'-MEN!!! First thing I do on an XP box is make it revert to Win2K appearance & behaviour as much as possible.
Jim (raised on Univac mainframes, 90% of my work is on Solaris now)
Whereas the first thing I did with Vista on the Mac was make it look like OS X.
Animated mouse pointers? Who uses those. I set my interfaces to be quick and instant.
We have a few programs that our field techs use (to download from our dataloggers on site visits) that are still DOS or Win 98 modes. When the vendor doesn't update their programs, we do what we gotta do...
For some things, yes I do use a DOS command line. For others, I use the GUI, but I want a small, fast GUI. Not a bunch of eye-candy. Hell, most of the time I've got a half-dozen or more xterm windows open to our development system, writing my Fortran code using vi... :-)
Jim
And for maintenance like that, DOS may still be the best solution. However, DOS is a terrible interface for doing anything with a computer other than, um, tinkering isn't the word I was looking for, but close.
Most people actually expect computers to produce something. Like documents or movies or balance sheets. Who'd a-thunk-it? For actually doing something useful -- the raison d'etre for computers and their support teams -- the GUI is king. Most people want a word processor somewhat more powerful than EDLIN. And they don't like having dangerous commands like RECOVER just hanging around the disk, waiting to bite them. They don't want to use DEBUG, couldn't care less about it.
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