Re: Setting up CS2 and Canon G3

Roy G wrote:

I am glad to find that I was trying to "teach my Granny to suck eggs"
so to speak.

You obviously know the subject pretty well,

Well I've read a lot about the subject and have done a fair bit of printing
over the past few years, and helped friends set up their systems.

but I was a bit worried
that you were one of that group who only know enough to be dangerous,
and who insist on giving the wrong advice. "Your camera shoots in
sRGB so just set all profiles and your Printer to sRGB"

No. Obviously different advice is needed for different situations but I was
trying to keep it as simple as possible.

I am interested to hear that Adobe Gamma can provide good Profiles
for Flat Panels, as everyone seems to be saying that can only be done
by Hardware Devices, especially since my CRT is getting a touch
elderly.

I've calibrated a few LCDs using my ancient Spyder, but in all cases my
friends have reverted to the Adobe Gamma settings instead, which give more
accurate results. I'm not condemning hardware devices, it's probably the
Spyder that's at fault - I find it makes the screen colours far too
saturated.

I was surprised a while back when I heard that Sony were stopping CRT
production, followed by a few other manufacturers, since up to that point I
was under the impression that LCD technology couldn't compete for colour
accuracy. But Sony surely wouldn't have made that decision otherwise. I
then had my attention drawn to a series of photos taken inside the Adobe
building in which there was no CRT to be seen! So if Adobe only use LCDs I
figured it was probably time to change! Others who saw those photos
identified many of the monitors to be the Dell 2405FPW.

Apparently the Dell 2405FPW is an extremely good 24" widescreen monitor from
a colour accuracy point of view, yet it's cheaper than the rest of the
competition, which seems a contradition in terms. Check out this review;
http://www.behardware.com/articles/567-2/23-and-24-lcd-monitors-roundup.html

The key thing to be aware of when buying an LCD monitor for use with photo
processing is the screen technology used. There are three main types, IPS,
VA and TN. TN is the most common, and cheapest, but doesn't have true
24-bit colour. Good for gaming but not photo processing. VA is the one to
go for if you are serious about photography. Unfortunately, the LCD
technology used is often not stated in many tech specs, so you may have to
do a bit of searching to find out. If it isn't mentioned, it's probably a
TN. BeHardware is a good site for LCD reviews, but their coverage of
different models is limited.
http://www.behardware.com/articles/498-4/lcd-screens-in-a-nutshell.html

Since the LCD technology is the key thing, the manufacturer is less
important, so don't worry about the brand name on the front, instead try to
find out which company made the screen. I believe Samsung and AU Optronics
are two of the best VA screen manufacturers. The Dell 2405FPW uses a
Samsung screen, yet is considerably cheaper than the Samsung model which
uses the same screen. Viewsonic produce some excellent monitors, using the
AU Optronics screens, check out this article;
http://www.behardware.com/articles/563-1/viewsonic-vp191b-mva-8-ms-tn-monitor-killer.html
Although I believe this model has already been superceded. Things are
changing very fast in the LCD world.

I recently bought the Belinea 10 20 35W, a 20" widescreen. Previously I
wouldn't have touched Belinea with a bargepole, but it uses an AU Optronics
MVA screen and is very affordable (make that "was", a new import tax is set
to change that). Looking at the Color Quality page of the review, you'll
see that the colour accuracy out of the box is pretty awful (average delta
6.5) but after calibration it scores a superb 0.5, so take no notice of the
poor colour quality score in the conclusion, that only applies if you don't
calibrate it. I'm very pleased with it, the blacks are really black and it
has much better shadow detail than my ageing CRT.
http://www.behardware.com/articles/598-1/20-inches-lcd-p-mva-vs-s-ips.html

Paul


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