Re: thoughts on new Canon compacts?


Paul Rubin wrote:



I'm not sure what cameras charge batteries internally these days,
and there's still presumably an AC adapter (i.e. charger) involved.
Or the cradle, that's a charger, another thing to drag around.


I don't know about other cameras but for the F810 the cradle is not
needed for recharging. It's possible to plug the power cable directly
into the camera itself to recharge the battery, without the cradle.


and dropping them into the
Lacrosse charger which conditions them and displays their measured
capacity on an LCD screen so I immediately know if I got any duds.


I think I may like this charger. I'll look into it. Can it charge odd
numbers of batteries (1, 3) or must it be even (2, 4)?

Ebay gave me the chance to buy, try, and sell many cameras that I
wouldn't have been able to do so had it not existed.

I have enough cameras by now, I want to get around to selling some but
I want to be pretty much through buying them for a while. I used a
Canon S100 for 5+ years and was very happy with it (except for lithium
ion related nuisance) until it had an unfortunate accident, thus the
hunt for a replacement.


I built a collection of classic compact film cameras over the past
years. I have made an effort to sell them all and remain with only what
I need to use but each felt like parting with a piece of heart.

I'm slightly tempted to replace my F810 with perhaps the Canon A610 for
the SD card and AA batteries, but I look at its images and then I'm not
impressed; there's something about them that screams "budget" or "P&S"
and there's no RAW format output.
http://www.pbase.com/cameras/canon/powershot_a610

I don't think RAW is important in this class of camera. I'm not sure
what to compare those images to--they mostly look ok to me. Are the
F810's images better?

In a word, to me, yes.

But even if that's arguable or I'm just imagining it, the main point is
that I already have the F810, and comparing the images of them I don't
see a clear reason in the A610's images to swap it for one as I was
tempted a few days ago on account of AA batteries and SD cards; in
fact, unless I'm imagining it, the F810's images do look better to me.

I would find RAW important in any camera with a good lens, good sensor
and good performance. When I bought the F810 the other choice I'd
narrowed it down to was the Canon A95 on account of its AA batteries. I
would state those two cameras, despite appearances and pricing, weren't
the same class. I would place the A95 with offerings by Casio and HP;
that is, compact AA-powered P&S JPEG cameras for budget-minded and
photographically uncritical users (though the Canon cameras have better
lenses and autofocus). The A610 does seem an improvement on the A95,
and seeing its pictures I would say they're somewhere between the A95
and the G6, but it's still intended to a different crowd from the F810.


The F810 is a more serious compact, for a more serious user who
nonetheless wants a compact. As a result, not only that it offers RAW
format, but its JPEGs are intended for post-processing, hence it was
misunderstood in reviews that assumed they were the final result. What
it'd been criticised for was actually a feature. For a start, other
than having a good lens and good autofucsing, it also had a good
superccd sensor with high resolution and low noise. It, also,
deliberately underexposes by exposing for the highlights and it
hightens the contrast, hence the "dark" JPEG images it was criticised
for by some, but those were actually a great feature as you can see
here
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1012&message=11264959

Besides the JPEG, is has RAW, which means it doesn't matter much how it
makes it JPEGs; this is not the case for the A610.

http://www.pbase.com/cameras/fujifilm/finepix_f810_zoom
http://www.pbase.com/cameras/canon/powershot_a610
http://www.pbase.com/cameras/casio/qv_r51
http://www.pbase.com/cameras/hp/photosmart_r707

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