Re: Entry-level DSLR compared to Prosumer (SPEED)

On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 14:01:55 -0500, Rich <none@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

>On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 09:49:57 -0700, Bill Funk
><BigBill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 19:44:33 -0500, Rich <none@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 16:57:46 -0700, Bill Funk
>>><BigBill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 15:03:49 -0700, timeOday
>>>><timeOday-UNSPAM@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Eatmorepies wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What's your point?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm not sure, but maybe that buying a DSLR isn't a very good choice if
>>>>>you'll only ever use it with a single affordable lens.
>>>>
>>>>And that's Rich's problem because... ?
>>>>>
>>>>>I was reminded of the discussion near the end of this review of the Sony
>>>>> DSC-R1, a rather SLR-like camera with a fixed lens:
>>>>><http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/sony/dsc_r1-review/index.shtml>
>>>>
>>>>Yes, the R1's lens seems to be pretty good.
>>>>But it's fixed.
>>>
>>>No, they will have optional attachments for it for great WA and
>>>telephoto shooting. Granted, you won't see 8mm or 400mm equivalents
>>>though.
>>>
>>>>The point of a DSLR isn't what people will put on it, but instead,
>>>>it's what people *CAN* put on it.
>>>>That someone buys a DSLR and never buys another lens for it than the
>>>>kit lens that it came with doesn't affect me at all. I can (and have)
>>>>bought other lenses for mine. I couldn't do that with an R1. Or any
>>>>other fixed lens camera. I could add converters, but that wouldn't get
>>>>me the quality a seperate lens can afford.
>>>
>>>Neither will using zoom lenses compared to fixed-focal length prime
>>>lenses. No one debates variation in quality from one lens combination
>>>to the next, but there is a "bottom rung" you don't really want to
>>>descend below. The gist of the post was that maybe, configured as
>>>they are for rank amateurs, there is no major advantage with
>>>entry-level DSLRs compared to prosumers?. Once you decide to spend
>>>more money than the average amateur, the advantages come into play
>>>in the form of better lenses.
>>
>>Yes, that's what I said.
>>I also said that's not a problem for me, and I also (through the
>>"rabblerouser" comment) question why it's a problem for you.
>
>Why is a observation a problem? The only problem is economics.
>That true performance and flexibility is possible with a DSLR but only
>a much higher price than the kits we see on the market. This changes
>the demographic the cameras initially aim at.

The observation is obvious. Why did you need to bring it up?
I mean, other than to be a rabblerouser.
>
>>>>
>>>>So, if the R1 suits, but it. No problem. If a DSLR suits, buy it.
>>>>Again, no problem.
>>>>Rich is doing his best to be a rabblerouser.
>>>
>>>Well, Sony obviously had a rationale for bringing this camera out.
>>>Was it to "rabblerouse?"
>>
>>No, that was your intent.
>>Sony's rational was specifically to make money. That's what Sony is
>>here for: to make money for its owners. That it brings out what others
>>see as a good product is merely the means to that end.
>>
>>You could have just as easily said a Porsche isn't a good purchase for
>>a 16-year old first driver. My response would be the same: "So what?"
>>>-Rich
>
>Because many of the arguments against prosumers versus entry-level
>DSLRS now (given the INITIAL cost of both systems) centre around
>economics and the economics for both systems (once you examine them)
>do not match.
>-Rich

Again, you point out the obvious.
Why?

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