Re: full-frame CMOS non-DSLR



"Chris Brown" <cpbrown@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> In article <gsvho1lms68h7o350h106om3vuu05qfl2s@xxxxxxx>, Rich <dfs>
> wrote:
>>On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 20:35:17 GMT, Chris Brown
>
> [Flektogon]
>
>>Funny you mention the Zeiss. It and Leitz lenses HAVE been subsituted
>>for the Canon WAs in ORDER to get good results. Maybe special (your
>>word) is incorrect? How about "properly designed?"
>
> Bear in mind it's a Zeiss Jena (i.e. DDR), but this particular one is oft
> regarded as a gem. I think you're right about the "properly designed"
> thing
> - it'd work better on film as well. This nonsense about "digital lenses"
> is
> just that. What's special about the so-called "digital lenses" is that the
> image circle beyond the APS-C sensor-size is either rubbish or
> non-existent,
> and this makes them cheaper and maybe a bit lighter. They're not
> "optimised
> for digital", they're optimised for a small frame.

A case in point would be the Olympus Zuiko 35-100 f2. It is equivalent to a
35mm frame 70-200 and its dimensions are similar to the Canon 70-200 f2.8L,
both have a 77mm filter diameter, which implies that Oly built a big enough
lens that they could simply ignore the edges and use the small center
section, rather than design a lens that took advantage of the smaller sensor
to produce a more compact lens. Length is 8.4", diameter is 3.8" and
weight, without tripod collar, is 58.2 ozs. The Canon 70-200 f2.8L (non IS)
is 7.6" in length, 3.3" in dia. and weighs 44.8 ozs. And costs $1100 vs
$2500 for the Zuiko, by the way.
Yes, it's a full stop faster, but doesn't it need to be to compensate for
the depth of field of the Canon's larger sensor?
Considering how good the images are from my 70-200, I'm not sure how
"optimized" a lens can get for small digital sensors.
--
Skip Middleton
http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com


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