Re: "Erase those photos!"

On $DATE , Peter A. Stavrakoglou wrote:

> "Fred Williams" <unclefred@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:1kOff.126527$Ph4.3881829@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> On $DATE , Peter A. Stavrakoglou wrote:
>>
>>> "Fred Williams" <unclefred@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
>>> message
>>> news:jfFff.126263$Ph4.3875086@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> On $DATE , Ron Hunter wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ray Fischer wrote:
>>>>>> Ron Hunter <rphunter@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>> Paul Allen wrote:
>>>>>>>> Ron Hunter wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There have been past periods in the history of the US
>>>>>>>>> where vastly more invasive, and dubious, security actions
>>>>>>>>> have been taken in extreme circumstances (such as the
>>>>>>>>> internment of Japanese citizens
>>>>>>>>> during WWII), and things returned to 'normal' afterwards.
>>>>>>>>> I see no reason to become excited at this point.
>>>>>>>> Who's excited? I just want USA PATRIOT repealed. Don't
>>>>>>>> you?
>>>>>>> No, I do not. You, and a lot of others have forgotten that
>>>>>>> there are people who just want us all dead, and are
>>>>>>> dedicated to making that happen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, yeah, we've heard it before, and it has always been
>>>>>> true. Are you going to live like a slave so that you can be
>>>>>> "safe"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you think they have given up after 9/11, you are in for
>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>> nasty shocks when the tools designed to prevent that have
>>>>>>> been taken away.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They who would give up an essential liberty for
>>>>>> temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security
>>>>>> Benjamin Franklin
>>>>>>
>>>>> Great quote, but what essential liberty is taken away by the
>>>>> Patriot
>>>>> Act? I have lived under the Patriot Act for several years
>>>>> now, and I have seen no effect whatsoever on my life,
>>>>> liberty, or freedom to do as I want, within the law.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> It affects others, though.
>>>> Consider: "If one of us is not free, none of us is free."
>>>>
>>>> Also:
>>>>
>>>> "First they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak out
>>>> because I was not a Jew.
>>>> Then they came for the Communists, and I did not speak out
>>>> because I was not a Communist.
>>>> Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak
>>>> out because I was not a trade unionist.
>>>> Then they came
>>>> for me sand there was no one left to speak for me"
>>>>
>>>> Pastor Martin Niemoller who died in a Nazi prison during World
>>>> war II
>>>
>>> So you're trying to equate those who voted for the Patriot Act
>>> with the Nazis?
>>
>> Yup! Me too.
>
> Very sad indeed.

It's the same sort of provisions the German Nazis imposed on the
people before the Second World War. History is repeating itself.
It's all the same pattern.

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Regards,
Fred.
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