Re: Your right to Photograph (Followup)
- From: Paul Heslop <paul.heslop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 00:25:24 GMT
Bill Funk wrote:
>
> On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 22:32:06 GMT, Paul Heslop
> <paul.heslop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> >"William H. Hathaway" wrote:
> >>
> >> Paul Heslop wrote:
> >> > Bill Funk wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>The situation was described; the kids are trick-or-treating.
> >> >>
> >> >>--
> >> >
> >> > sorry, Bill, half asleep. I would say you have every right to ask for
> >> > a quick snap of any kid who pops along. I do wonder whether you have
> >> > the right to show that pic on the net, say, without permission.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> Say, like a webcam aimed on your front lawn (I've had my auto entered in
> >> my driveway so I've considered monitoring what is going on my property.)
> >> So maybe I could put such 'live on the net'? Would my warning signs
> >> ("This area is under video surveillance") have to be in English,
> >> Braille, binary,
> >> Klingon, etc? My warning to the 'net would be: "This cam is Very
> >> Boring."
> >
> > :O) I do know of people who have been warned not to position their
> >security cameras so they film the street. When a local kid was
> >involved in a fracas his parents swore he was indoors at the time,
> >only someone had footage of him outside at the time. Were the cops
> >interested? No, they wanted to know why there wasn't fair warning that
> >the security camera was filming people on the street
>
> To such a question, I might well respond along the lines of: "It's a
> public street. Why would I need to post such a warning?"
>
> I certainly don't want to call anyone a (liar), but why would the
> police ask such a question instead of using the proffered evidence?
>
> --
> Bill Funk
> Replace "g" with "a"
> funktionality.blogspot.com
They seem to be scared, in this town, of the reaction of the locals. I
could go into the times when they haven't responded adequately to
incidents but it seems to go back to the 80s and a riot which occurred
after the deaths of two of the local kiddiwinks as they played around
with someone else's car. The local youth decided that rather than it
being their fault for committing a crime it must be the fault of the
police, and while they were at it decided that a few nights of
looting, burning, pillaging etc were in order. It was noted, in the
after event that police attitude to some neighbourhoods was that they
would build a wall round them and just chuck food over the wall for
the 'animals' within. This attitude has prevailed. Some parts were
actually changed by removing some of the houses and the actual
building of walls and closing of a number of minor roads. Stupidly
they replaced the roads with walkways which of course the
troublemakers can use to their advantage but a cop in a car (which
they are almost always!) can't use at all. Security cameras were
erected and manned, now they're either stationary and unmanned or have
been broken and even demolished by the yobs. There are some fight
backs, but it usually entails a long and troublesome campaign by
locals to get action and individual incidents can be overlooked. I
know of another incident where a house was attacked, video shot on a
camera above the front door of a gang of youths attacking the house
and the police reaction being that this only showed one side of the
conflict and that one of the kids in the house had earlier had a
confrontation with one of the gang, as if this made it any better, and
again the evidence of video was not used by the police.
--
Paul (Sometimes my mind plays tricks on me)
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