Re: The making of unusual pictures

John McWilliams wrote:
In an other thread, I wanted to mention I am actually sorry you spent money and time on your internet/defamation/stealing/ridicule debacles.
Hereabouts, truth is a defense to defamation... And most of what Doug calls 'stealing', is actually reposting of pages that he posts, then pulls down. I call it 'caching' aka 'keeping them honest'.

John, if you are going to make such comments then I suggest you make sure that the 'victim' is indeed that.. or whether his claims may be a distortion of reality.

I can't think of a much worse way to demonstrate any kind of pano, stepped out or nodal, but you know that, right?
Does he?

And as to 'the other guys'- I can understand their being upset at apparent misrepresentation by you and lack of follow-up on pointed questions.
Thank you for allowing us that. (O:

But I don't see what the ruckus over a stepped out pano is
The ruckus occurs when Douglas posts pages like this and promotes them here:
http://www.mendosus.com/photography/doug.html
(He has since pulled this page down while still making claims about it, hence Jeff's reposting.) You'll note that amongst the unprofessional personal abuse, he recommends to panorama newbies that they could simply walk along and take 'stepped out' images of that marina scene, and then expect to be able to stitch them together. (His own samples were clearly *not* stepped out, which is the only reason he managed to stitch them.)

it's not rocket science, but then neither is a nodal point pano; most any one can do either.
Nodal panoramas are pretty easy. But John, do you really claim that most anyone could do a true *linear* panorama of Douglas' Manly marina scene, or for that matter of any scene where there is such a huge amount of fore-, mid- and back-ground complexity? You could try to patch together a montage, rather like that shown in his latest effort, but even that will look pretty unconvincing and will likely fall apart on close inspection. Have you tried that sort of thing, John?

We are simply trying to make the point that linear panoramas (where the camera is relocated several times along a line in front of the scene) are really only suitable for scenes that are largely two dimensional (or have areas where the perspective issues can be 'contained' and pasted like a montage). That Manly marina scene does *not* fall into those categories.

This latest Douglas page does not show a linear panorama of the type described in his initial claims. As you said yourself:
"I can't think of a much worse way to demonstrate any kind of pano, stepped out or nodal, but you know that, right?"
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